Hard Salt Beef AKOT7K EP 2 (ACOIAF #21)

Splendid writing tonight, the part with the fish was disgusting. Welcome to the Unreal Hour. Hi there, and welcome to our show. I'm Fiona and i' mema. And this is a cast of Iceland Fire episode twenty one. We are covering episode two of a Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which is called Hard Salt Beef. It was written by Aziza Barnes and Ira Parker and directed by Owen Harris. So let's talk about the cold open? Oh yeah, or not? We could do overall thoughts? Actually the elephant in the room. Okay, let's go for it. Wow. Was not expecting that in the opening scene? No, no, no, for sure obviously prosthetic. Well, yes, I don't think that really. It caught me off guard and my initial thought was are they just taking the mickey out of how sexualized Game of Thrones was and how shocking it was at the time? So is it? But actually I watched the little short on you Chat with Ira Parker and that's that wasn't what the reason was. No, it was something like there's an energy about Sir Arlen, a confidence, and that they felt like it has to come from somewhere. They must have a massive. Yeah, and in the episode there's a lot of doubting. Yeah, so it's to pick them up in a big way. Yeah, absolutely, because they ship all over them this episode. Yeah absolutely, I. Think that was word. Yes, yes, so yeah, they really they really go for it with go for him, So they gave him this one shiny credit his name. It actually almost felt satirical, didn't it. Oh, it's so funny because it's like that, you've got this voiceover going on as well, and where dunctually you know, he's got his rose colored glasses on, right, he's saying, Sir Arland through the eyes of someone that's grieving, where you just remember all the good parts about them, yeah, or in some of them you kind of make up as well. But yeah, I mean that changes by the end of the episode. I think the rose colored glasses are off in that end scene, but we'll get to that later. For now, it's just this this lovely, this lovely voiceover where he's just like really, i mean, he's obviously trying to get people to remember Sir Ireland, so he's saying all these that all these great things about him. In fact, let's just start with the clip. Let's just hear that we scene. You might not remember him, but stay there coming back. He was a true night lecture. Are so drunk, different than other men, Yeah, but great batter. He had a peaceable nature, quiet and humble, a veteran of a hundred wars, but an enemy to know one. He always knew what was expected of him. Mhm. He never complained, even as he was dying. He just he just got along with it. Hm. He meant to be a benefit to those around him. M hm. It did not make him rich. He held no lands, sired no children. I have too epod to see if they made shade. There's such a contradiction between what we're seeing and what Doug saying. He wanted for nothing but the open air and a fire to warm. His feet under the trees, shivering but still laughing. His skills is warrior working unsong. But he had a chain cut from granite, knocking the crap out of kept on coming. I'll give him that. He did get up and little let's go again. It was a really lovely scene. And then obviously it goes in and you can see he's declining health. Then you can see Dunks seeing he's declining health, and there's sort of focusing on Dunk for a second and you can see the sadness and and yeah, it's it's it's a weird scene because it starts off quite funny, but it ends up a little bit sadder because you know what's coming. But it's it's a it's a great setup for the episode, to be honest with you, because it really is about Dunk's growth from living in his shadow and now he's stepping out into being who he wants to be. And he's bigger and badder than Sir Arlyn ever was, but he still sees Sir Arln is this figure to live up to. Whe The fact is he could knock the crap out of Easy probably on his best day in his youth, Dunk could probably still knock the crap out of But absolutely I love that scene. It was it was funny and yeah, like the shock factor of the the bit of the beginning and I see what I see what they're trying to do one that what they said about Sir Arlin. But yeah, I think it it is it's like we can still shock you in this franchise. I don't think you've seen it all. We have now. I hope miss success. I hope, so, I hope we don't feel they need to prove themselves again. So, yeah, Dunk's going on. You hear him talking a couple of different lords, still within the frame of the voice over. It's still a voice over over scenes with Sir Arland, but he could he's obviously talking to different people around the. Camp, saying, no, you remember put us this in petition into get into Yeah. Yeah, So he talks about my father, Sorry, Sir Arland helped your father when he was near blind to the first guy, and then the second guy he says about Sir Arland fought with your father or maybe you I can't remember, but at the Red Grass Field, which brings me into what I love the most little breakdown of what Red Grass Field was for those that don't know or can't remember. So it was a decisive battle that ended the Blackfire Rebellion. It was just this battle, and the war was done. In this battle we had damon Blackfire went down, his son went down, one of these twin sons. Another one picks up the sord Blackfire the other twin and he goes down shortly afterwards. At this point, this is when Blood Ravens come into the battle. He's fired and arrows left, right and center. But then Agor Rivers Bitter Steel, picks up the sort of Blackfire and leads another charge against Blood Ravens, Raven's Teeth his elite archer company at this point. And the reason I'm bringing it's important to the episode is because we're introduced to Baylor and make Her in the next scene, and they were decisive and ending this battle. They are known as the Hammer and the anvil Maker created this shield wall which Baylor hammered done right into so makers the anvil, He's the Hammer, and the final rebels were defeated in that moment. Of course, agg Or Rivers escapes with the sword Blackfire and goes and founds the Golden Company, and the rest is history. But the Red Grassfield mention and the same episode that we're introduced to bayle Or in Macar is deliberate and therefore worth a mention. So yeah, it's said that Sir Arlen's nephew died in this battle, So that brings it back to the personal again, because the costs of this war are very different to people like Sir Arlen and his nephew than they are to Baylor in macar So I think it's it's really good because that's it's not that kind of story. This story isn't about the kings and the princes and the lords. It's about this wee guy that's pretty much small folk and his life experiences and how these big battles have affected his life. He would never have become Sir Arlen's gocot are if it hadn't been for the fact that his squire was lost in that battle. So yeah, I really love that. That was very subtly highlighted. Average fear that doesn't know the war probably wouldn't pick up on it. But that's what we're here for. I hope you enjoyed my history of listen, So yeah, one more thing. So it's yeah, there's like a repeating pattern in Georgie's stories because you can have all the negotiations and the politics and everybody coming up with these great ideas about how battle should be one big, flashy strategies and all the rest of it, but at the end of the day, it ends up brute force that wins time and time again, and it's a repeating pattern throughout Georgie's books. And that's a great example of that. So but then goes into the actual episode from there right with the voice over ends and we have Dunk making his plea to house Tyrrel and it's all about hopeless. Did you have any notes on that scene, because I've just talked for like five minutes solid. Yeah, but it was all war stuff, so it's all totally relevant. Oh. So Egg was a standout for me at at the beginning. Oh for sure with his chat. However, the only my first watch, I felt a little uncomfortable as a mother with his bad language, I know, But on my rewatch I felt less uncomfortable. So I think that was because you were desensitized or because you read it differently. No, I watched an interview with Peter and Dexter and right it was about when Dexter found out that he had been hired to be Egg, and his agent had sent him a video that already met up with them or something, and he showed them various chords and then he showed him an Egg and said you've got the part, and he said, oh, I was so excited. It's just what a cool wee boy. So I think in watching that as a mum. I had that mum pride and thought how awesome. And he was a really cool parents and he knows you don't say the sweary words to your friends at school. This is work. Yeah, and that's okay. But what a mature I thought, what a mature kid. He really does beyond his years. He does. He's a fab little guy. And the I think the character that you see when he plays egg isn't so far removed from how he comes across on screen in his interviews. Yeah, no, I agree. He's a very charismatic wee boy. So I think, Yeah, if I was his mummy, I would be so proud, and it all comes from a mum place. Yeah, for sure. He's a great boy, fantastic actor. Timing absolutely. I love the story that they told it com con about going to the arcade and stuff like that. But I think it was in the making of episode that was out last week they were they were saving up for PlayStation or something and there was a debate about whose house would who would have the PlayStation, But they're saving up all these tickets from the arcade, And then it was Peter and then in the making of episode said people are coming up to me afterwards and going, it's really great that you took Dexter to the arcade, and he was like, what are you talking about? I wanted to go to the arcade. Oh that's cool. Definitely they had a great time. There's no faking it or trying to you're a better entertain this wee boy or anything like that. You can see that they're genuinely friends because he's just a cool wee guy, absolutely brilliant. So I have the clip of that scene, so let's have when we listened to that. A ship knight, you. Would have been a very good one. If no one remembers him. Pick up your feet, leave me beef, please you. I would not leave your son. Not why you must stuff your master dying over and over again. Oh you've seen like this. Lords are even listening to you. Not I can do both that you are a knight of the round. Sup because they their permission riding to the list out young thn tie around tennis after on into a lance whole. Exactly. That's enough. Looks like they're better. They are better. You're too brazen for your own good Sir, Eland was a great knight. Someone will remember him. Enter targerians. Hunt. You can really hear is growing frustration with Dunk. Yes, absolutely, when you. Stop moping, we're not getting anywhere. Yeah, you need to. Be signed up to do this, Come on. Like absolutely. It's it's like, I can't leave you alone while you must suffer your master dying over and over again. He's like, really understands the gravitas of what Dunk's. Feeling in more than Dunk does. Yes, absolutely articulate those emotions better than Dunk and himself. That's very wise. I think my doughter might have the same gift. And she's three breathing mummy and so yeah, then there's obviously that's seen with We've all seen it from the trailer, except those of you that may have just landed on this when the episode with no trailer in mind. But the trailer was kicking about for quite a while, and this we scene with if you steal my stuff, oh I'll come after you with dogs, break out the book brilliant. But as you pointed, episodes, nobody barked, nobody barked in that scene. Nobody was funny. Absolutely was funny, but desensitized to it by this point because I'd seen the trailer several times before watching this episode. In fact, there was a couple of lines from this episode that were in the trailer as well, but there was they still they hit funnier in context, I would say, yes. So this is an interesting scene because it starts from Leo Tyrell and and of course Dunk's like playing to him for remember Sir Arlin. He's like, Sir Arland said that, you said that a hedge night is the bridge between lords and small folk. And then he's off with Egg and the Targanians come in, and from this point onwards it just goes into it's like one long scene, one scene into the next scene, into the next scene without any actual scene breaks. But I think we get a good ten minutes of flow here before we actually get a scene break. So it's really interesting how this all plays out. But I love the entrance of the princes. This is hilarious. Our Lord of Ashod Humbling welcomes the Great and Honorable bell Aw Tigerian, firstborn son of King Darren, the good Prince of dragon Star and of the King, an heir. To the Iron throne. What a guy and his brother mere car. Maker's face. Then he didn't even get his name right for a start, me Car and Maker's face when he doesn't get his name right, and that. It's just I just thought it was brilliant. It's this amazing intro for Baylor and his brother Maker me, Car, Sorry, it's so funny. Do you feel like it played out like that in the book. I don't think so. I don't remember, but it has been a couple of months since I read it. It's not yeah, it's it's not. No, it didn't ring. It's familiar for me. See when the scenes that were straight out the book, I'm like, oh, this is word for work, this is for bat. I love it, and I know you know, and I don't think this was correct me if I'm wrong, guys, if you's no better. But I don't think that it went out down like that in the book. Maybe I missed it. So when I watched it, I think on the page, the moment carries more weight. Yeah, because I've built this up in my mind as the Targarians. Yeah, and Game of Thrones, Deneris is a big thing. She has dragons, fire and blood. The Targerians are huge. They have dragons. It's a big thing that people are. They fear them, revere them. Yes, So this. Was like, oh, there's been no dragons for what fifty odd years? And it seemed a bit visually flattened what I had in my mind. So I think this was you know, visual versus imagination. Ye, so in my mind this was way bigger, right, And then I watched it on screen. I was like, oh, I thought this was bigger in the trailer too, So my mind has absolutely tricked me. This is a huge, big thing. As they've turned up in force here. And I think that this is because they have no dragons. They have, you know, nothing that makes them stand out from everybody else anymore except the fact that they are barians and bail Or of course he's awesome, what a guy. But so they've turned it in force to this little backwater tourney because they have to be seen, they have to have a presence, and a large one at that. This is the part of the Tiganian dynasty. You know, there was just so many kids, so many kids born at this point. I think the count for day On grandchildren is eleven. So wow, yeah, he's got eleven grandchildren and four sons. And you know a sister that's married to Adornish prince as well. And you know, the the Targanian family at this point is massive, and that's how they're managing to hold what they've got because there's so many of them and they're showing up in force to these minor events. I wonder, is there maybe a downplay to fit with Dunk's perspective where the show's coming from. Maybe, yeah, and other shows I've experienced a huge visual yeah, from the Tigerians, but this. Show is more downplayed, Oh for sure. So that's where I've gone, Oh, oh, they've only got two flags and some harmor. They do this a lot though, And yeah, they do this a lot in TV shows, like you reading the book that there was one hundred of them and we see like maybe thirty on screen. I think that happens a lot. But I think we're supposed to go with the book. But the people that are watching that haven't read the book can only go with what they see on screen. And it didn't seem like it's that huge a presence, is what it is portraying the book, because there was definitely a hundred, one hundred nights they showed up with. Yeah, In the next part of this scene, it has the opposite effect for me, right, But we're not there yet, because there's there's a few funnies before then. Yeah, for sure. So we're then introduced to Lady Gwyn Ashford, who is the Queen of Love and Beauty at this tournament. Okay, so the interesting thing about the way these journeys are set up again, I'll give you the lower I believe that this. I mean, they're all different. It depends on whoever's tourney. It is their rules, right, But this journey in particular, and many many like it, the Queen of Love and Beauty is assigned five champions at the beginning of the tournament, and those five champions are then challenged by others, and if they lose, they are replaced by the guy that challenged them and beat them, and so on and so on, and the five standing at the end are the winners of the attorney. Or maybe it's them that whittle it down to one. I'm not sure on that. Don't don't quote me on that part. But yeah, so that's that's how it works. So she is she, this is the lady that they're all fighting for today, over this weekend or however long. The attorney goes on for and this is the young lady and she's a strange one. But more on that later. So what did you think of Arion? I expected them to be worse. Well, it fell a little flat for me. Yeah, I'm not getting enough Oursehoul. Well that's that's your best. That's not what I meant. Oh yeah, I feel like you know. He wasn't abrasive enough exactly. Yeah, he was pushing and titled spoiled teenager, spoiled posh teenager vibes. He came across very calm, very in his insults. However, from the book, I didn't get the vibe that he was a cam No, I got. More fiery, Yeah, definitely more fire. I expected more tension, and there was tension, but it. Was I expected teenage visaries if I'm honest. Yes, absolutely, like we said. Thrones, yeah, House the Dragon versaries. As we said, Harry Lloyd. Really just what was it you said in the episode he embodies Arschool? Yes, well, I wasn't getting enough ar School from from. Even if if it had been a channel of demon targetian. Yeah, that sort of vibe. He wasn't. Amon was calm, but there was a smirk. In a I don't think the arian was edgy enough. No, no, I don't think so either. Let's give him a chance. There's more, absolutely more. I would not see him in a bad mood yet. But for me, for your initial meeting, a very on, I didn't get what I expected he was. He was a tad in different Yes. Yes, that's a good way to put it. So Dounk says, I'm not a stable boy, my lord, not clever enough. I have the honor of being a knight. Well, knighthood has fallen on sad days. I mean that was it, and I'm pretty sure that's the Dialogue's out the book as well. Yeah, it is out the book. I just have expected a smirk and I look up and down more more contempt. Yeah yeah, maybe like we're just spoiled by Harry Lloyd. I don't Maybe he was saddle sore from riding and that's what he's channeling. Yeah, yeah, let's see how he goes. For not judging the actor here, just saying that, I would even say it's maybe even direction. I think the direction could have been. Could you give us a bit more arshole? You know? How about the arsehold tonight? Oh dear, even his horse as an arsehole. Oh she was, she was. No, that was the first five I got when the horse kicks the guy in the face. But soon after my opinion of the horse did change. I did absolutely love that. Dunk just took the horse and was like, oh okay, girl, it's a bit loud here. Yeah, and that's not in the book. No, So that was a nice touch. Actually. I think it really suits Dunk in his character to have him do that, because it's like, I'm attending to your horse. I'm not a stable boy. But when the horse was in distress, instinct took over. Yeah. Yeah, So he is clever enough for that. Yeah, it's a testament to who he is. Yeah. So that scene did more for me with Dunk yeah than it did with Arion. Dunk stood out for me in that scene, and it was supposed to be Arian's big entrance and I didn't get Yeah. So that's how I feel about that. But I am open to seeing Arian's next scenes. So then Dunk meets the King's guard looking fabulous. But I loved them they. Were I just felt like they were like nights from a fairy tale. I visually their armor they're done, And isn't it that was the standout for me? Yeah, in the whole episode. Yeah, because I do love visual things and that wardrobe choice was just off this gale. It's very good. I loved it. They say the pretty ones are always temperamental. Ah, she just got a bit excited. That's all he meant. The princeling, not the Palfrey lords. And it's like, first of all, not lords, Dunk, get your not lord sirs. They are sirs. They are Sir Rowland create Hall and Sir Donald of Dusk and Dale, not lords. Although creak Hall does definitely come across as high born. I don't know how crek Hall, but it definitely comes because Sir Donald says something about his station. In fact, I have the clips, so should we have all listen? Yes? God boy, do you ride your horse into battle? It doesn't ride you. It's not often he must look up to cars, his eyes down. Tell me so, Duncan is the proper place to ship around here? Not really? What have you been going, Dunk? Such birth has never done to disturb Bizarars all the day you'll dame before the week is out, out wager where you're from? Man? You don't smell house bread. No place, really, I know it. My family's from there. You're not a darkling of dusk and Dale. We have krabbas at dusking Dale far back. As a gout, may I ask sir how the son of a crabber came to have the honor of being a knight in the King's. Guard same way we became crabs? Are you bailo Targarry? No? Then would you move the fuck? Oh? I tad that week. But on the end of the clip there, because it's just one of the best lines, even if I have seen it ten times in the trailer, it was very good. It's brilliant, much better in context because Dunk's just having this moment. He's like, the same way we became crabbers, what's that then? What's the same way? I'm guessing the answer. It's hard work. But Dunk is like, wait a minute, what does that mean? And then he just gets inter up by this stable boy. And he apologizes to him after he insulted um. I know, he's so nice, he's such a brilliant character, and he just like like he was saying, I'm was like, he stopped treating these people like they're there, you're better, and he's like, but they are, and they say he needs to change his viewpoint of this, as long as he's still going, yes, sir, sorry, sir, got a bit of swagger about. You cowering like a maiden on our wedding night. That's it. That's exactly it. So yeah, from there, Dunks sneaks around the castle. Also not in the book, he kind of stumbles on them accidentally in the book, whereas this is shows like actual decision, but it also shows he's desperation. He's like, he needs something. He knows that Baylor is another person that that might know Sir Arlen. So he's sneaking in hoping he can maybe just and he's just nosy, I think. But there's so much in this scene Before I get into that, because there is so much in this scene, is there anything you want to say about this scene? Before I know? I'm off? One move forward. So we hear this bickering conversation between Makar and Baylor, and it's brilliant. It's just so brotherly. So it's like, perhaps the young princes have been delayed, fuck me delayed, or they're not delayed. Do not curse our gracious host. Baylor says, it's like I said, fuck me, not fuck him. And then there's a bit about their dad making them go there and blah blah blah, and then he just goes, I say, we go on, Yeah, your sons are missing and let's just go hunting. You're not that bothered, obviously. So we learned that Dron's got form for this. He was commanded ten of the list, and Baylord thinks that makeers shouldn't have commanded them that. So while all this week conversation's going on, Lady Quinn comes in starts whispering the duck about the boys being missing, and there is it's so funny. She's like, you're big and stupid, like mean, but then she kind of like takes a week. And I was just thinking back to you remember that movie stand By Me with River Phoenix and Will wheat In and Corey Feldman, and Corey Feldman's character in it has got these little pal vern How he keeps doing that to you, taking a week swing at and then going to for flinching chap jab, just like she ran off without getting her too, for flinching. That's all about through my head at that scene. Oh, I know, I'm sure my age theory, but yeah, funny, funny we scene with lady Gwen. Don't know what her story she's so then there's like, obviously more they'll turn up chat no doubt Sir Roland will turn him up and eggon along with him. So that's how we got the two boys day on anagon, make hers like when the tourney's over, perhaps, to which Baylor says, Daron belongs on a tourney field no more than Aries or Regal, and make hers reply confused me because he said and says, by which you mean he'd sooner ride a horror than a horse, which was probably an accurate description of Daron, but not of Aries or Regal. I mean they're not fighters, that much is clear. Regal is a gentle soul and maybe a wee bit afflicted with the Tarkarian madness. And Aries is bookish. And while he married, I think it was a Penrose he married, but she he barely went nearer and isn't really there's not any stories about him hore in either. So it's an interesting line to me for something that's been so low accurate up to now. But maybe they just meant that maybe he was just referencing deare On himself and the fact that the three of them have no business on attorney Field for their own reasons. Yeah, own separate reasons. But this is where the family tree thing comes in a bit, right, because it's like, Okay, so who's who? So we have deare on the king. He's dead on the second, I believe, yes, So we have dead on the second. And he has four sons. So those are Baylor, Aries who we just mentioned, Regal who we just mentioned, and Maker, who is also in the room. Baylor has two sons, Velar and Mataris. I believe Aries has no sons, Regel has sons. I'm not sure who they are pass on the who they are, but they definitely exist because they make up the eleven children. And then of course Maker has the most. He has four boys and two girls. So his four boys are Dayren, Rion, Amon, and Agon, and his daughters are Della and Ray. I think. So that's where we're at. This family tree is freaking huge right now. Maybe his comment just comes from his brother's not been as busy as he has been. Well, yes, and creating trueborn Targarians. Absolutely, he has been very busy. He has he is married to Diana Dane. Oh right, okay, so Dornish. But they were there before the Royiner. The house Dane was there long before the Drainer, so they may have married in with Roynar Dornish over the centuries millennia, No, maybe a thousand years. Well they're not overs then. That is very true because there's none of that sister wife thing going on there. So at this point in history has that. This is probably the most diluted because Targarian blood has been because Deron also married another Dornish princess, who Martel. Yeah, so Dron is married to Martel. And who was his Oh of course he was Agon's rather, but who was his mother? Darron's mother was his sister wife, Yes, Nerys Nery's that's right, So Agon the Unworthy was married to his sister. So from the next two generations down they've married outside the family. So this is probably the most diluted the Turgerian blood has been ever since Egon's conquest, and even before Agne's conquest, they were pretty much doing the sister wife thing and marrying in with the Valarions every now and again, and. It ties in with there are not having been dragons for over fifty years. Yeah, that necessity maybe feels lesser for them. Yeah, that's the reason, isn't it. Well, yeah, it's to keep the blood lines pure, to keep them connected to the dragons. It's all about the dragon bond, and these dragons are connected to their bloodline. So yeah, that has always been for the sake of keeping the dragon rider small. You know the amount of people that can do this because of everybody, you can do it. You're no longer gods, So no. More dragons suggests it has to be for political alliance rather than. They had to bring down into the fold. Yeah, that's and then that next generation of make our marrying into House Dane another well established first Men officially, but there if you read the world, guys, there's heavy hints that I've stayed were there before the First Men. But that is another lower deep dive that I don't have in me. Right now, let's go back to Dunk and Baylor. Let's go back to that indeed in fact, so yeah, obviously the bit with is happened with Lady Gwen and he's doing a bit more your eavesdropping. There's a wee bit more. Oh no, where are the boys chat? And I think there's a bit of chat as well about Dren being he will change or I'll see him dead, which is a bit harsh Maker, but like, come on, like I know, he's a bit of an arsh but he's not a bad guy. He's just a bit useless. Leave him alone. It's it's good because it gives us a sense of Maker as fiery tempered, so he wouldn't actually see his son dead, but his nature is to be fiery. And yeah, there's a lot of is the embarrassment I suppose as well. You can see it's really affecting. I mean, he doesn't really quite know how to articulate that, so he's like it will change or I'll see him dead. I think I liked that we got that from Maker and then we have Baylor and there's such opposites. Yeah, so it was set that up quite well. The dynamic between the. Brothers, absolutely, the dynamic between them is actually really great. You can you've definitely got that. But brother little brother vibe going on. It's like the other two in the middle don't exist, to be honest, yes, less likely do them. In fact, there's a lot of parallels between Robert and Status. Okay, right, there's a very much there's there's a moment in the clip when what was it Dunk says to him that Sir Arland called you the soul of chivalry, and Maker goes, oh, it's just. Like, well's hear that clip. Yeah, let's do that. Actually, I've got a week clip from before that part of the scene. Two clips from this scene. Yeah, let's do the first one first. We'll get to the other. But yeah, the brotherly rivalry between them, you can see it's there, and I suppose it's always going to be there with prince lings like sometimes and you know a lot of family dynamics. The younger brother, the younger kids, the spoiled one, and the older kids are like, oh, he gets away with everything, or she gets away with like loads because she's the youngest. The offer that vibe. But with Royalty it's different, isn't it that the older ones, the favored one, the special one, and everyone else is just living in their shadow. And you just got that vibe from macar with that one. Let's hear the clip. Lords, I do apologize from my interruption. I am. I have asked firm Manfred Don Darien to vouch for me so that I might enter the list, but he has refused to do so. Who well the fuck is going on? We are the intruders there, brother, I'm closer. Sir, and others too. You see they say they know not Sir Ireland of penny Tree, but he served them. I swear it. I have his sword and shield. Sword and shield did not make a knight. Oh, I love this moment. Lord Ashford looks around to see if anybody like Herod's quip unless. You have some writing or do you remember him, your grace? It was many years ago. You may have forgotten. Sir Aarland of penny Tree. He never won attorney that I know, but he never shamed himself. Either, Yes, Sir, I mean no, no, he didn't. He ever threw Lord Stokeworth in the male at King's Landing, and years before he unhosts the Gray Lion himself. He told me of that many a time, and. He will recall the Grey Lyons. Oh, and Dunk looks stuck for a minute here, and he. Is if we go back to the book. The internal monologue is, oh, I know his name, I know it. Think think, think, Dunk think, oh, I know I know what. I know what. I don't think I know it, I know I know what, I know it. And then it comes and we get a very long pause to accommodate for that, and you can see it all going on in his face anyway. Great, absolutely so, yeah he's really stuck there. But the whole scene is brilliant. That bit with Lord Ashford as well. He looks around the room to see if anybody know he looks at make her specifically, and make her just eating or drinking or something and not paying attention to him, and he's wee face. He's brought. He's like, oh, I was quipping in front of princes and nobody noticed. It was very good, but loving it. Dunk is just so awkward and he's adorable. But yeah, let's hear the rest of the scene. Sir Damon lanistery line, he's Lord of Castle Rockner so he is. And then there's the lists upon the Morrow. How can you possibly remember some fucking hedge night who chanced to unhorse Damon Lanister sixteen years ago? I think it practiced to learn all I can of my third And. Why would you deign to joust with a. Hedge light as many years passed. At the storm's end, Lord Barathian held a hasty to celebrate the birth of ransom. The lots made Sir Alan my opponent in the first tilt. We broke four answers before I finally unhorst. Him for seven. Dug shush. Believe tales grow in the telling. I know he takes it well, though, do not think. Ill of your old master that it was four answers only as. You say, I believe it was four. I do apologize the old man, Sir Earland. He used to say that I was thick as a castle wall and slaws and oarcs. My harm was done, Sir Rise. You gave him back his horse and armor and took more ransom. Sir Ireland often told me that you were the soul of chivalry, and that one of the seven kingdoms would. Be safe in your hands for many years. Yet no, I did not mean you wish to. Yes. The decision rests with. The master of the game, is bess you no reason to deny you as you say, my. Lord, Oh dunk can hardly continue his excitement here very well. Say you are grateful. Now funk Off. Must forgive my brother. His sons went astray on the way. He fears for them. I trust they will not be found dead. Dunk oh, bless them. He's so awkward. That gets funny, and every time I hear it, it does brilliant saying brilliant. It just blaze out all these characters for you perfectly. Baylor is so noble and thoughtful. I love that he's just like he can remember someone like Sir Arlan. It's like that thing that ned tot Rob was that you know, every night you must feast at a different table, so you get to know all your men and all your people, And yeah, I feel like there's an element of that in there. He's like he remembers everyone he comes across. I think I wonder if he's a name guy and not a face. Guy that too, that's what he might have walked past them in the crowd, but he remembered that name. That name meant something because. He remember the Dales, which which was lovely, and he was very He's very graceful, isn't he very very? He maybe the best of all the. Target to be a mutual respect there that you you get between the two of them, and I think that partly is Makers. It's like. That's just little brother stuff, isn't it. And it's that it's that second son thing, although he's the fourth son, but you get the point. Anyway, he's always living in his brother's shadow. The other two aren't any competition strength wise, so therefore MegaR sorry, Baylor's Makers biggest competition. Really, it's it's power that's like, oh yeah, yeah yeah, And it's so nice because you get the sense that he's quietly rooting for Dunk. Yeah. And finally, of all the people, yeah, of all the people, it's Baylor. So yeah, it couldn't worked out better for you, Dunk. Anyone else might have still slightly disputed, it might have still been disputed, but once Baylor's got your back. You're Sorry's like the popular kid. Anyone else is just knna okay, fine if they've said okay, but yeah, like you say, it's undisputed now. Yeah, yeah, Plumber doesn't have a saying it anymore. And I love it. It's just a brilliant saying. It's like he's spent so long. He spent two episodes trying to get somebody to remember Sir Arlen and the person that finally remembers him as the top dog that Dunk has no business talking to. To the throne hand of the king. That is exactly that dude, What a guy. And his brother. So yeah, absolutely brilliant. So the scene ends with Baylor telling Dunk that he needs to get a new sigel. Again observant he's looked at that sigel. And then when chilas that's that's Sir Arlan's. You're not of Sir Arland's blood. Yeah, exactly. He's very detail orientated, you can see that, and the way he remembers the jows, how many Lanceys were broke, et cetera, and then the silly little things like the shield. But yeah, just to come back to the Robert and Stanis thing before we move on, did you know you get you get that vibe from make Car a little like you know how like Stanis was always like, oh Robert gets this, Robert g's that, and I get nothing like There's there's definitely slight parallel there, but it was all in that one. I mean, in Maker's defense, he is the younger brother. Stanis does have a genuine point that I'm the big brother, it should be mine. Oh yeah, like we're renally absolutely, but when it was when he's first going on about it, I think it's like one of those early Davos chapters and these writers going on it was like Robert gave me dragon stone, like I should have had storms ed and he gave me dragon stone, and he's seeing it as a negative when actually he gave you the seat of the crown prince, like that's where the next in line, the heir to the throne supposed still live. Stanus, you whiny little shit. Anyway, back to this timeline. So the next scene was the Publis show. Oh awesome. Yeah, so it was Florian the Fool was the play. And as you have just read this recently in Clash, remind us what that story is. Oh, it's Florian and jun Quill. So Florian was Florian was a hedge night, wasn't he? It was a night but there was no This is why it's disputed by the masters. Damn masters, gray rats. Anyway, that there's disputed by the masters because there was no nights in the time of the Age of Heroes. There's a few night stories that aren't knights didn't come until the Handles. The Andles brought knighthood with them, and apparently so the heroes that came before have sometimes had night added to their title, but there's dispute about that because there was no nights. Well maybe just as well, because I don't think it's very nightly to be peeping on three young ladies bathing in a pool. John Quill was a young maiden who was bathing in a pool with her. Two sisters, and that is why we have the place named Maiden Pool. It's named after John Quill. And actually there's a I think. A bath house there this time period or Game of Thrones time period, and it's supposed to have healing properties in the bath house in the pool. Very interesting. So there's also this from the wiki that says the famous sword that Brian talks about when she tells the story of him and a feast for crows. And there are songs that are about Florian and John Quill as well. Six maids in a pool maybe one of them, but not confirmed if that song it really is about Florian and John kill but it sounds a bit like it. Your story said three maids in a pool, But there's this song that says six maids and a pool. So Floria is a bit naughty Florian, isn't he? Absolutely? I feel like that came across in the play as well, what little we saw of it. Yeah, it was very naughty character. The play was really cool. I loved it. I loved tan Seller and her stilts, Like she was like just glorious in that beautiful dress. She looked amazing as John kill So, Yeah, fabulous puppet show again, really cool. I was one of sands of Stark's favorite stories. Also was it is absolutely and you hear it brought up a lot in Clash when she's desperate to be saved. Yeah, for sure. And apparently these were stories that John and Rob used to act out as little boys. The one would be Florian and another one being in the Dragon Knight, and they'd have sword fights in the yard when they were kids. There's a lot of references to flip this story. Called Floria in the Fool. It's not even really clear in the wiki. Is it because men are fools? Men are also knights? What's the thing? Is it that? Yeah? I think that's the line. Yeah, to be fair, it's not very clear in the wiki. The only thing he really mentions about is that he was a fool, and he was a knight, and that he the six maidens in the pool, the Maiden Pool stuff. So short of reading the entire series again looking out for it, yeah, I couldn't really give you the details of You would probably know best because of what you read in Clash. You would know better than me because you've read that more recently. But there's no there's no definitive answer to why, because it's it's one of those folk tales that is unclear as to what is the true telling. Well, the puppet show was cool. It was very cool. So yeah, the puppy Show was great. But then the scene after with Dunk with Tanseil and Egg is his wingman Larous Egg was so like cheating him on. He's just like, come on, just say the right thing. I was like, dude, I just get me see a puppet show. Why do I have to be your wing man? This is so awkward? Oh it really is so Yeah, Dunk gets his shield painty by Hans Sell. We eventually decide on. A tree, a sunset and a falling star an elm tree. Yes, and this is a sigil that we have seen before. But I explained this in a previous episode that it is a shield that Brian gets painted for her. I think it's in a feast that she gets a painty pause. She remembers it from her father's armory. It's so cute. It's like the first moment where Egg feels that him and Dunk have really bonded or they're going to bond. Yeah, at the end of episode one and they're underneath that elm tree and there's the Shooting Star and Dunk tells them, oh, go to sleep, and then he asks does a little smile that Dunk can't see, And I love that in that moment, he's thinking, Oh, thinks I have a meaningful, meaningful and it's meaningful to Egg. Yeah, and their little friendship. That's so week that that seems to be the the. Birthplace of that Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, it's something that's connected like that that tree because I mentioned the tree obviously, and it's the particular tree that they had slept under. And then obviously that makes Dunk think of the Shooting Star. And it's a beautiful little moment between them that's unspoken because right now Dunk is trying really badly to flirt with this beautiful girl who is I take it back, I take it back. Yes, she is tall. She is just tall enough. Yeah, tall enough for what? So awkward? Oh it's brilliant. So yeah, I clipped that the following scene with where I've titled the clip Pep talks. I'm not sure if that's actually what went on, but here's the clip anyway. It's just what he's likely to make an horse myself. I love this thing, brilliant. That I'll handled. Yeah, the puplic girl, it's it's just it didn't feel well handled. She is making for pay? You what both dragant? Is that promising? It's a commonade, commonality? I don't know. Do you think I love make an that one day? Sure? Why not? You're a likely lad. I'm a bit. Puny grass, even for my age. Everyone's always told me so. And Meg has his own insecurities. Everyone's always told me I was stupid. Ex face here is brilliant. And and what. Did you do when people said you were stupid? Suck? Business is done of yours my own, dear girl, face. Froth, I mean muscle. When you eat my gold it's x face here, it is so funny's look at it. Light up and affian, both terrified and like, what's just happened? The whole scene is absolute class. It is so funny. I loved every second of that, even the long, uncomfortable silence of fact. I think that might be the best X we face just like you're gonna finish that soon. All just goes over Dunk's heads so much. He just misses all the subtexts. It's just provided him with. He's been a wingman in the moment. He's providing him with some feedback afterwards, and then tries to talk about his own insecurities and Dunk's like, huh what who huh would help you grow? What? What? Moment? Like I can't spell this out for you. I just need do you catch on? Oh? Dunk the lunk Oh think as a castle wall, slow as an onyx, brilliant, absolutely hilarious and dunky enough. Dunkush actually show an element of street smarts in there as well. He's like, well, she's paying in the shield for ye, isn't she? And He's like, yeah, for money, Like it's just like she's getting paid that. She just doesn't mean she she likes me, which is like, you know, I was quite intuitive for Dunk I supposed to see that. Many would us I know many a sympathy would have taken that as an indication that she liked him. So, you know, one up for Dunk on that I said, I've wrote here when Lionel comes over, her egg looks low key terrified. And then of course we got into the tug of war scene, and I have wrote tug of war is brilliant. No notes. Other than egg holding on with hands and feet. I know Lionel is just away. Like like, go for a drink. Yeah, so good, brilliant. It was an egg swinging on the rope. Apparently it was just Dexter trying not to face plant in the mud. He was like, I'm just going to go down. So he just so. And it's one of those scenes where they just decided, you know, we're keeping that in. Yeah, it wasn't. It worked. It just works. So I love the way Lionel when he comes back from his drink he smacks Dunk on the arts. He's like, looking good. Such a brilliant scene. It's so funny and totally not in the book. No, and yeah, I do these moments that these little bits that they add that just give you a little bit more to a character, a little bit of playfulness and fun. I love the way they played up Lionel's character for this show. It's one of those rare moments of fact. I saw a YouTube video earlier. I didn't watch it. I just saw the thumbnail, and it's like when HBO makes Cat Georgie's characters better, and in some cases they do, this is one of them. So IRA's done a lot of it, isn't he He's been the showrunner. But I did see what Ryan Condall's involvement. I looked into this as well. Actually he's basically just obi one. Well that was what he said in an interview that he it was his idea years ago. Yeah, that he originally pitched it to HBO. Yeah, so therefore he's on the production team for this. And how so The Dragon got green lit before this did. But because this did get green lit and it was Ryan's original pitch, he's still in it. And what he said is in an obi one can obi capacity. Yeah, he and. George feel that Ira Parker, because Ira was a writer on House to the Dragon. They just feel he's the man for the job. He is, He's spot on perfect for the job. He's done such a brilliant job so far. It's so lower faithful. I'm loving it so far. I have no problem with any of the changes. The changes are definitely adding to it. It is great. This is this is like a dream come true, just something I never thought would happen. After the way the end of Game of Thrones bombed, I never thought that something like Duncan Egg was going to get picked up. And I'm so happy it has and it would really really go so well right now, which actually brings me to another point which Emma's husband brought up yesterday. So I keep saying Duncan Egg, Duncan Egg, as if that's the name of it, and so for anybody it doesn't know, Emma's husband asked yesterday, why do you call it Duncan Egg, and like the reason being because before there was such a thing as a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, where these novellas were put together into one book, they were known as the Tales of Duncan Egg. So it's just stuck. And so for those of you that only know the story as a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms and wonder why I keep calling it Duncan egg now you know so, thanks Chris for bringing that up. Another fun fact, So from from the Tug of War Who, we go to the Steely Peate scene where Duncan is trying to get some armor. I did really like the scene. I like it like these steely Pei feels a wee bit sorry for army offered. He's like, okay, I can use that steal. I suppose knocks down the price a little bit from not much. Though, No, I thought it was going to be like half. Yeah, it's good steal Dunk Scott there, even if it doesn't he fit up. I'm blessed. He's like, well, I've made arma for bigger. Yeah, oh have you there's bigger than me. Great brilliant. Dunk's like, I mean to be a champion here and he's like do you know and all the others just came to cheer you. I forgot about that brilliant. Now it seems like a cool character, not a big flashy character, just just. Just a cool guy. Just a cool guy. Yeah. I really liked hump but Dunks we face when he said that. It's like Pat so worth a mentioning great saying, nice introduction, steely page. He was exactly as I imagined. Dumb so from there goes to sell sweet Foot. So sad it is might not say so sad, No notes again, it's just the scene just speaks for itself. It was. It was very, very heartbreaking, and I'm choosing to believe that Sweetfood did get a bag of oats and an apple. Yeah. I mean. The only bit that I thought, Oh, I'm glad they left that out, which is unusual for me, is in the book, the guy that he sells Sweetfoot too is a bit he's a bit cheeky term and he tries to charge him give him less for Sweetfoot, And when Dunk walks away, he's a bit like, oh, he's definitely going to sell. Her for more. Yeah, what's not made? He finds He finds all these things wrong with her, and then yeah, that's it. Dunk thinks, oh a bit, all those things have disappeared when you go to sell. When I come back to buy her. Yeah, because that's what's not made. Clearing the scene is that Dunk he feel intends to come back for her once he wins. He is coming back for Sweetfoot. That was Sir Arland's horse. Yes, and that's because he is where he is in that place of grief. It's such a massive thing for him. Yeah, to sell Sweetfoot for Determined. He's coming back for her. Yes, so hopefully that still plays out in the show, but it wasn't made clear in that scene. Yeah, but yeah, it was very emotional and I'm glad that there was no haggle. Yeah, I didn't miss that. I didn't know, not at all. It was. It was just it's nice to lean into the emotion of the scene without any of that bullshit. So yeah, for sure. Again, there's rare moments where they make a scene that George's written slightly better. Yeah, I like it. I like it indeed. So from there we go to the tavern scene just before the jousting begins with Egg. So yeah, they're sitting there, they're drinking and Dunk's like got aspirations of maybe working for House Targani in one day, and Egg is really quite rude to him. He's like shoots him down, Yeah, because the targets and in the business of employing head nights are they like rude. And then he shoots him down about Donald of Dusk and Dale, and he's like he was a crabbers son and he rose to be a knight, the kings Guard. He's like, his dad owns the entire crabber fleet. How do you know I like to fish? I know, I love that absolutely. He's such a quick sinker. I like to fish, very very quick winker, which brings us into the joust awesome, which is I love before they've even gone in that moment when Egg gets lost in the crowd, so the crowd's all moving towards the jousted area and all you hear is so duncan. He's like, are you are right? It picks him up a bit somebody's shoulders, but he's excellent. He's like, yeah, he's like kind of shorter breath. He's been totally crushed in the crowd. This is me every gig I've ever been to. Oh yeah, sure, person problem number five. I think the list goes up to about ninety nine count. Anywhere where there's a crowd of my husband. He's like, you need a flag, yeah, so I can find you. I believe that. Yeah. So yeah, it's really really funny. Just before it's really imposing when you see this arena and you know the Targanian's coming, in on their what do they call that, and their place of high honor, let's go with that. I don't know what it is, but yeah, so just the whole setup, it's like, we have never seen attorney like this. They're definitely coming true on their promise to do the best journey that this world has ever seen. What did you think I think about the choice of the tourney beginning in the dark. I thought it was really cool. I never really thought anything of it, but now that you mention it. It set the scene differently. We've seen tourneys in Game of Thrones, always in the daytime, always in the daytime. Yeah, so this being in the dark was set a really different tone. I never thought anything of it, and I'm wondering if I just thought that that's how it went down in the book, that is that how it went down in the book. I can't remember. I can't remember either. And I don't know if there's any indication of seasonally what time of year it was. It could have been wintertime, so it could have still been sort of late afternoon but dark, but yeah, it gave the vibe of nighttime festival, like the time when crazy things happen. So to talk about the timeline seasonally, what I can say is the following year. The following year there is what is known as the Great Spring Sickness. Okay, so I'm assuming if it spring, it would have been nighttime then, because springs late March April and sunrise generally. So it could be early spring. Yes, I mean sorry, sunset is generally around seven o'clock. Yeah, yeah, I would say, which makes for a nighttime party. Yeah, really cool. I definitely say it's the scene. Well, I don't know if that's a change from the book, but if it is, I like it. I loved it. I thought it was. Great, very good. So getting into the introduction of characters, et cetera, the first one that we see is clearly a Tully. Yeah yeah with these fish, ah yuck, exactly like what what likes a bit. Ozzie Osbourne was, Yeah, you. Know what's funny. I didn't. I didn't get Tully. I got Ozzie. Well. I saw the fish and went, oh, that'll be a Tully then and then he did that, and I was like, oh, I didn't need to see that. In fact, I have seen that way more times than I am comfortable with. Really is so gross. But I want to say in this scene the Heraldry Incid Jill's is Chef's kiss. It's just absolutely brilliant. We've got tullies, we've got lanisters, we've got Lionel Barrathian, we've got high towers and of course targarians. Volar's armor is amazing. It is amazing. It is so cool. He looked quite imposing, and that is really the only really introduction we get to him. It's just him looking imposing and his fabulous armor. I love the bit with Duncan Egg and Dunk's like, oh, he'll be the favorite to win then next Like, I'll take that bit. Absolutely brilliant, just so imposing, and like, as we said earlier about this journey with it, you know, the five champions and everything, it didn't play out like this in the book with a five lane joust in it was just one after the other. Yeah. So this five lane jousting thing that they've added in is so cool. Yeah, it definitely just made the whole spectacle bigger and more. Wow. Loved it. So have you got any notes on the joust? Not really Nope. So we've got Dunk clearly feeling overwhelmed from the first collision. Yeah, yeah, there's you can see it. He's starting to go, oh shit, am I ready for this? So there's definitely little bits of doubts starting to creep in there. We've got volars riding against the high Tower. I'm just going to say that I'm not saying Lord High Tower because it could be the brother. It could be. It's not necessarily oh I'm going on I have no names. I'm just going on sigels. So we've got vlarge riding against the high Tower, and then the high Tower guy falls over into the Tyrrell lane and he's on the deck. The Tyrrel guy's charging at him, and he drops his lands and goes to pull out his sword to get this guy on the ground in front of um, but he takes a lance in the side from the lanister that he's actually supposed to be jousting against. He's too busy. He notes the guy in the deck in front of him, forgets that he's actually in the middle of a joust with the lanister on the other side, so he just jabs him in the ribs. So he goes down, lands on the barrier and then lands on the barrier rolls into the next lane where a horse is coming charging at him at full speed, which he just then mounts. Like how this Tyrell guy is quite impressive. This is the guy the beginning of the episode that was tune on this hour leaf and couldn't remember, Sir Arlen, Well, he's magnificent. And all the while Egg is absolutely screaming. I know he is screaming and then shouting obscenities, and he's is this. The first joust that he's properly been to? I think it might be. I think it might be this. Yeah, I believe. I believe so without getting into things that are revealed later that, yeah, explain how Egg came to be there. Yes, it's just like eggs like going off on one. It's like a kid at their first concert. He is just like raw, he's loving it. But then he has a little moment where he down he gets a bit insecure. I don't. He kind of looks over at the Targanians first, and then it's like but then he looks at his hands and he's like it's back to that. I'm a bit puny thing. I think, yeah, and then he gets put me down, Sir. After that he's still interesting. He just pushes your way up to the barrier so you can see. But I think he lost his confidence a wee bit in that moment. Yeah, it was he maybe felt a bit exposed. He has a he has a small boy. He was up high. Dunk is a big guy. You know, there's a lot going. On towered above up there on dunk shoulders. Being there being on big shoulders. Yeah, it's scary. Dunk was towering above everybody himself. The air is different up there, man, at that's what was going on about, no dear. So, yeah, the scene is like this joust is tall carnage. And then of course we started getting those flashbacks with the drunk that I suppose it's that thing when you grieving and then you've kind of just got to get on with shit, and you're getting on with shit, and then the events the brains process, and I suppose he's pro everything he's been through in the last few days, he's lost his mentor he had to bury them. He's now in this completely different world that he just feels completely like a fish out of water, completely out of his depth. And he's no longer a squire exactly he's now the hedge night. He is, Yeah, he is, He's now a night and he's going to. And he's fighting two days, asking can I be a part of this? Can I be? Oh shit, actually, I'm sure I have to do that now. Yeah, And it's that realization and he's like, fuck, tomorrow, that'll be me. Don't quote me on the timeline here, but yeah, he's probably thinking on the morrow, oh my god. And I like to sound like a person from Western on the morrow that that will be me, So it must be quite intimidating. Yeah. Yeah, we get those little bits of flashbacks, a little bit more carnage from the joust, and then they're back at camp, which I thought was a lovely little scene. I I like that both episodes have started and ended in a similar way. So they've started with a Sir. Arland scene that's had a shocking yes part in it that's quite gross, but we seem to end with the camp. Yeah, I would like that to happen. Yeah, well, there's actually a really cool juxtaposition going on there with those two scenes. And I didn't I'd done my notes and I thought, oh, the episode's only half an hour long. I've got some time before you come over. I'll just hit play again. And I just finished my notes, and of course, having just seen the end and then seeing the beginning again, I suddenly noticed this thing that I didn't notice when I was doing my notes, which was the juxtaposition between those two scenes, the cold open, because in the opening scene, it's very much Sir Arlan's awesome. He does this, and he did that, and he was such a good fighter and he always gets up and you know, he just kept going and all this to have Sir Arlin vibes. And then in the end scene he's like he was a drunk and a bit of a womanizer and he wasn't making any friends and it's like the rose colored glasses are off. Now he's processing. He's grief. He's processing. He's grief. He's gone from the seeing all only the good parts to actually going well, seeing him for real and who he really was. And it's time to bring him down off that pedestal that he put him on, and it's his time to shine now. Yeah, he's been living in his shadow and he now sees it that it's time to step out from that shadow. But anyway, I clipped the scene so let's hear it. Splendid riting tonight. The part with the fish was disgusting. Agreed something matter say. Two great knights live in the hedges and died by the side of a muddy road. I think not, Sir. I wasn't gifted with sword or lance, and he drank and he hoard, and he was a hard man to know. But no friends either who lived high on sixty years? If everyone was a champion, what chance do I have? Truly? But he was good to me. It wasn't his family, but he kept me like we were. He raised me to be an honorable man. And all these noble lords can't even remember his name. His name is Sir Arne of Pennytry. And I am his legacy. On to morrow we will show them what his hands wrought. There we go, it's his coming of age moment. Yeah, he leveled up for sure. No loved that. Brilliant ending and beautifully bookended with the opening scene. Absolutely very very well done. So did you have any further notes anything we didn't discuss? I did not. So this is the part where we would normally have our our ip section and out of the dragon has never let us down for a dead body and this episode of Duncan Egg there was no deaths is a first for us covering any West of us content for that to happen. But we felt like there was still things to say goodbye to. I would just like to say that there was a death that no one has noticed. It was the death of the fish. Oh yes, there was a fish, wasn't there. There was a sad death of a fish. That fish was brutally seen off from this world. And then thrown into the crowd, So that was sad. There was also the death of Dunk's rose colored glasses for Sir Arlene. Dunk definitely, as we just said, he leveled up, he moved on. He saw Sir Arlyn for the lectures Al Drunk, that really. Is even though he had a massive wang. Well that helps with the whole and I suppose not if you're the whore no. Danger money for that. We also said goodbye too, for sure we are. We also said goodbye to Sir Arland's and shields. The wing chalice of Sir Arland A penny tree is no more. She's still laughing. We also said goodbye to Sir Arland's arm to steal, which fetched a meaately two hundred. Of the price shocking. I was good steel man, all those for a much smaller man. Also said goodbye, not forever, to sweet Foot. Not dead, but there was an emotional goodbye that needs to be acknowledged. She was Sir Arland's horse and Dunk's friend. And advisor. Secret Oh. Rest in peace, joy Ropes. The rest in peace to the fish, no disrespect. Whatsoever the episode, the whole episode ragging on Arlen. We've been kind. We at least gave him a eulogy twice, once for him and once for his memory. Oh dear, seven fucking hells. So that brings us to our final section, which is going to have some spoilers. Guys. For those of you that don't want to know it's time to say goodbye, check us out on Facebook, Blue Sky, Instagram at the Unreel Hour. Can also check out our website, The Unreel Hour dot com, where you can find links to all of our content. Check us out, leave us a comment, and well we'll see you again next week. This section is for book readers or people that just don't give a shit about spoilers, or people that want to know of the foreshadowing that was littered throughout this episode was exactly what they thought it was because it was everywhere. So this is your official warning guys, spoiler section. If you don't want to hear them, it's time to leave. But for those of you that are sticking around and don't care about the spoilers or already know them, let's talk. So first of all, the Targanians arrive, and it is so freaking obvious to me, maybe just because I know, but to me, it was so obvious that Egg was like time to leave now, I'm just going to go back to camp. Yeah, because he is eggone targarian, fifth of his name, King of the Andles, the Ruiner and the first Men, lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and protective of the hell feels so good to get that out. He is obviously a targarian for those of us that know. And as soon as his family arrive, he is like time to go attend to the fire and he is off. So that was very, very obvious. Why ever, wrote meeting the King's Guard here is a thing about Oh? Yes, yes, So the Meeting of the King's Guard was a beautiful foreshadowing moment of Dunk becoming Lord Commander of the King's Guard in the future, the moment he first claps eyes. What is really. I haven't read those books yet, and yet I still know. Maybe it's because well, Jamie Lanister read out a page from the Book of the King's Guard in Game of Thrones and told us all and not to mention mister Raymond talking about his little brother Egg. So right, for those of you that have seen Game of Thrones and did not know, shame on you, Shane, Shane. She's a castle wall. Yes, sorry if that offended any of you. But here we are. It's the spoiler section. Are the books have been out for thirty years guys, twenty seven officially, but thirty sounds better. Ninety seven was not that long ago. She made that up, dying. I'm not that old. The nineties was like ten years ago. We're talking about absolutely. So the day on that they were talking about day on the Drunkard is obviously Eggs older brother was very obviously. This is the funny thing about it that Baylor's talking about his sons that are missing to Dunk and Dunks the only one that he knows where they both are. Yeah, Well, Deron's in the pub down the roads, an Eggs back at camp tended to my horse, so that I found absolutely hilarious. That is a week inside joke for the people that I have read it. Yeah, absolutely brilliant. And of course that bit when he's talking about Valar with the bet, he's like, I'll take that bet because he knows Valeri and all that, and he's like, he's all right, I suppose it's not special. I'll take that and it's just my annoying cousin Valari. So oh, those are the things that I've been holding back through the whole episode. So what did you think about the the moments with egg where he was I felt like that moment in the crowd. He has so much knowledge, so much knowledge, and Dunk's like, oh, how do you know that? And he's like, oh, I like to fish, yes, Oh come on, Dunk. Even the way he talks is very obvious. He said, oh, he's from King's Landing but not Flea Bottom, right, and he talks like that, and. I mean he calls him Valar. He doesn't say Prince Valar or any kind of titles. Yeah, the clues are all there, and Dunk is just going right over his head, all of it, from the moment with a Penny in the first episode and the King's landing connection. There's so many moments where the writing's on the wall. Dunk just I don't think he reads very well actually bless him. In fact, think there's a moment in one of the later books where he's like, my eyes aren't very good. Could you come up and just help me with this work? Does this word say he actually wants as a translation for the whole page? Yeah, but yeah, it's definitely. It's so heavily hinted, and the clues are there. I would like to think that I certainly did. When I read the book. I read the clues for what they were, and so it was not a surprise to me to find that the egg was the target. But I think even like if I was coming into this new and watching this for the first time, not knowing this story, that I would be starting to pick up on this by now, what do you think do you think you. Would be starting to get it well or do you think you would have got it well? A I already knew obviously, it's hard to say what hard to say? But in the book they described him as having violet eyes. So well, yeah, from the violet eyes, I would have. Been like so it's quite often, very early on in the book, the violet eyes, the shaved head. Yeah, you immediately know what the shaved heads for. The articulation him being a little boy. He absolutely would not have that level of articulation if he was an orphan from flea bottom. It's not It just wouldn't be that way. No, No, absolutely, And his knowledge of Lord and Sidgill's and hierarchies and princes is way beyond what you would expect a boy of that age of low birth. Yeah, and he would have an element of the way Dunk is the he would know his station that he is of low birth, and he would be more humble, whereas he's he's very cheeky, isn't he very He's Yeah, he has an air about him. I don't think he's had many clouds around the air. No, he's probably deserved a few. If he's had any clouts around the ear, it's come from Arian. Yeah, so Arian, I mean there's some won't get me that yet because it hasn't come up yet, Because there is some nasty things that Arion's done to Egg when they were growing up. The Egg will probably tell us about later in the season, so let's leave it for that. However, that comes from he's his older brother and he's a bit of an well, anyone is going to give him a cloud round the ear and could get away with it, it would be his princely brother, wouldn't it. It would absolutely. I don't think his father's really got it in him. I mean, I'm sure he's. Capable of the cars, all talk when it comes to his son's exactly. That's that's where I was going with that, for sure. He's a grouchy dad. Definitely very grouchy. I loved that. Sorry we didn't mention it earlier. But at the moment when Dunk comes in, he Starry go and I'm Sir Duncan. I was squared to Sir Ireland and Makers like, what the fuck is going on? Baylor is like, we are guests here, brother leaning in the way. Other business has to continue. But yeah, just I love Maker. I thought he was actually really cool. And funny, and I did moan about the his character looked in the trailer. However, in this episode, no, he has the beard thing. Yeah, yeah, I think it was a light in there. Yeah, it's all going on. It's great. It's maker in my head. I thought I would have more beard, but there was definitely beard. I think there was enough beard. There was enough beard. Yeah, definitely. And he's the right level of grouch. Yes, yes, he will make a good kick and have to step over a lot of dead bodies to get there though. Yeah. Yeah, so it's four children and eleven grandchildren to get to egg. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's There's a lot of dead bodies in the coming years, lots of ip yeah, oh yes, exactly. Will we will have content for an rip section, I'm sure, Maybe not so much in this. First couple of Listen that fish to serve the good send off. Oh deary forbit its head off as well. It was so busy, and I think it's so golemn. Yeah it is, it should be. That's so George. Everybody that is a George fan knows how much George loves Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings is one of George's comfort stories that he always goes back too, and his favorite part is the Scouring of the Shire, which of course did not make the movie. Yeah, that's that's kind of awful, George, there were better parts. I think for him. But is that just because the big Bad's gone doesn't mean he. Just hates a happy ending, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, that is Yeah, that is George. Yeah to a teeth, that's it. He just I don't do happy endings. I do bittersweet. Well, I think we have exhausted this conversation. We have, absolutely, so let's say wrap it up. Did we have a clip through this? We did, actually, when Dunk starts that was the other part. The spoilery part was when Dunk was going on about working for her house targarian, and it's very obvious. Egg gets quite arshy about it. Yeah, this is not just like he verbializes it as, didn't it be ridiculous? But it's actually no, No, stay away from my family. This is my thing. You're my thing. I don't want these things to cross over. Please stay away from this. I have to dissuade you. And I felt like so I clipped this and saved it for this section because I would not have been able to do this earlier without commenting on what Egg is saying. So let's hear it. You know, the old man lived a Noye on sixty years. I was never a champion Spugama. Sidore in aashroom meadow, even for an hour. Maybe some great house might take it into its service, perhaps even House Targarian. Are you supposed to? Dragon House employs many house nights. Not for that, I'll have you know, Sir Donald of the King's Guard is but the son of a crabber. Sir Donald of asking his father runs half the crabbing fleets in wester Ross. What how was you know? Black fishing? Yeah? 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