The Game Begins- Book 1 vs Season 1 – Anniversary Special - Part 1 (ACOIAF #17)

When the king returns from his hunt, I'll tell him the truth. You must be gone by then, you and your children. I will not have that blood on my hands. Go as far away as you can, with as many men as you can, because wherever you go, roberts Roth will follow you. One of my rough lild Stark. You should have taken the realm for yourself. Jamie told me about the day King's landing fell. He was sitting in the iron throne and you made him. Give it up. All you needed to do is climb the steps yourself. Such a sad mistake. I've made many mistakes in my life, but that was one of them. Oh but it was. When you play the Game of Thrones, you win, you die. There is no middle ground. Welcome to the Unreal Hour. Hi there, and welcome to our show. I'm Fiona and I'm Emma. And what are we covering today? Ema, We're covering season one of the Game of Thrones. That is FAB. Part two we will covering more detail of the book, but right now we're going to go work her way through the episodes and see how it is being adapted. Awesome, this is FAB, very excited. Absolutely, this is the first time I've read the book. Yeah, although all these. Things came out such a long time ago, it's really exciting for me because it's something I always wanted to read and here we are, so let's get into it. It's been absolutely amazing, like going through this with you and reading the books and being able to sit and discuss it with someone who's in the same zone as me at the same time, it's kind of nice to relive it. Yes, yeah, definitely, I'm loving every second of this. So this is going to be our first anniversary when this episode releases, and I'm very excited about that too. Also, this was just to fill in a little gap while we waited for Duncan Egg. But we are still waiting. We're still waiting, and we flick through the news last night and we will continue to wait. We discovered that it has now been pushed to twenty twenty six, early early twenty Winter twenty twenty six, so. Which we're hoping doesn't mean Christmas twenty twenty six. No, oh dear, we would like the first winter. Yes, definitely, winter is coming eventually. Winds of Winter might arrive before Duncan Egg. So let's get started. So Episode one it's called Winter Is Coming. Great title. Absolutely. It's directed by Tim Van Patten and written by David Benioff and Dabie Wise, also known as Dan and Dave. Those guys we will refer to them as Dan and Dave. Yeah, as we go forward. So what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean it was it was good. Am I comparing it to the book at this point? No, I'm going to take it for what it is. I've really enjoyed it. It's good. But having read the book now you realize that they covered quite a lot of the book in that first episode. Yeah, I felt like it was pretty true to the book. The rumor is is that, well, most people have probably heard about the original pilot that was filmed that was a flop. Ye think that what happened was Darren Dave took the original pilot to HBO and they says, no, we need to establish all the main characters in the pilot. So that's why it feels like a lot just crammed into that very first episode. But watching it for what it is, and bearing in mind I hadn't read the books when I first watched this, no me neither. I felt it completely set the scene and it was great. It was only when I later read the book that I realized it was a bit rush, But it didn't feel rush to watch it as a viewer. Yeah, yeah, definitely, And again I don't feel like it was rushed as such. It's just they crammed a lot of info in there. They did. There was a lot of good face acting. There was really really good scenes with location. So getting to see winter Fell as quickly as we did it was fantastic. As the opening scene, it was fantastic. Loved it completely drew you in. Yeah, it really did. It was really really exciting. I'm like, what is this this is? And you really got to meet all of the characters. Even if they didn't have a huge dialogue, you still had something and there was lots of characters that you warmed to very very quickly. I think that the only ones we didn't get in the pilot were the ones that were based in Kingsland, and yeah, the ones obviously that didn't go to winter Felt, we didn't get any. We got all of the POV characters, yes, within the first episode, which was hugely important. Yeah, there's I mean, there's a few differences from the book and I think the book portrayed the prologue better. There's more detail. Garrett and Will are kind of swapped around. Yeah, so that there is that. And in the book there was six white Walkers and Will witnesses Waymar and killed from up in a tree. Yeah. And when he finally winds the courage to come down, Wymar's body rises and he kills him. Yeah. And it's Garrett that's waiting with the horses, and he's the one that runs to winter Fell, the older guy. But what we saw there was the white Walker basically killing Weimar and then killing Garret. And then Garret's head chopped off scene was brilliant. It's soome. And that little girl was so creepy, so creepy. She was creepy from the initial shot where she's she's dead and she's not white Walker. Yeah, but white walker dead girl. No. So, what was your favorite scene from the pilot? My favorite scene from the pilot was I'm calling it Enter King Robert. Oh, Yes, I absolutely love this scene. I loved the face. Acting in this scene. Yes, And I've watched behind the scenes episode. It was really really cool the way they filmed it. Robert getting off the horse and how it went around all of the characters, And yeah, there was. There's a lot of really great face acting. Sansor and she's eyeing up Jeoffrey. Oh she Robert being all he's meant to be a big strong brathy in but he's actually big fat brathy and isn't it he's a plus size man. He's a plus size matter. Yes, you mentioned Sansa eyeing up Geoffrey. Is. I love the moment when Rob sees it. Yeah, there was a proper big brother moment. There. There's so many looks between all the children. Yeah, and there's there's Cat and Ned being stoic, Circe being very regal, Jamie being. Narcissistic, tat I don't know. Definitely, Jamie has his moments. And there's Terry and Terrian's there too. But not in that initial scene. He's the brothel. Yeah, yeah, he appears later. Is actually I really like that scene with Terrian. Actually, so before we go to that, let's play the clip Lovely. Grace, You've got fat. I love the lake it gives him. Here went from stock cat look to friend up and down. Like, yeah, so did you have you. Been guarding the north for you? Your Grace went to Philly? Is yours? What's the game? You shut up. Here? You must be rob Ay, you're a pretty one. Santa your name is ah yeah? Oh shows your muscles. You'll get soldier. Should have been Aria? Please do brother? Would you please shut up? The relationships are so well established and. Very like and these are just young kid actors. Yeah, a lot of them their first jobs. My queen, take me to your crypt. I want to pay my respects. We've been riding for a month, my love. Surely the dead can wait ned. We've got a lover. Beast. This is it's a great introduction to all of these characters. You absolutely get the dynamics between them all really quite early on, just from a couple of lines of dialogue and the good face acting. It was well directed and well written. Yeah, I do we have this scene in the book. I don't recall it. I mean, it doesn't happen. I'll tell you what. We'll come back to that thought later on part two, because we're going to review some of the book stuff before we record part two. So let's actually let's write that down so that we can definitely. Because we all know if we don't write it down it didn't happen exactly. What other notes have you got regarding this episode Let's have a chat. The other notes that I've got the are specific to the show and not the book is Jamie and Circe scene, and it's while John Aaren is sort of lying in state yes, and they're having a chat, which kind of suggests that they were prolific. In his murder. Oh definitely, so that that's because they're not POV characters at this point. So I'm not sure how I felt about the scene in the respect that they were giving away too much of the plot very early on. I think that comes back to what we were saying that Esbo said, establish your characters and their motives early, and that's definitely why that seem. Because in that first episode you have the tower scene with Bran. I think you could have left that out and left it to the tower scene and maybe put the dialogue in there, because there's more dialogue in the book scenes. He doesn't just see them having their ancestuous sex. He hears them say, well, hears them imply that they've been complicit in John Aaron's murder and that Lisa Aaron is aware of that and may have some proof of that, although he's ten and he doesn't understand fully what he's hearing. No, my point is that there's more. Dialogue in the book than there is in that scene in the tower. So I think the scene with their lying no other than the Things I Do for Love? Yeah, exactly, But I think that's also in the book, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, my point was about the lying in state scene. I think they could have incorporated that into the tower scene. Rather than have that. Yeah. Absolutely. I might add actually in a book that Brand is only seven, there's a lot of age change, which is totally understanding from the book to the show. A lot of these kids had to be made older in the show than what they were in the book, or it would be massively inappropriate. Definitely, the kids are dealing with themes that are way beyond their years. Yeah, definitely. But No, you're right that that scene heavily, heavily implies that there's something, there's a secret, something to do with John Aaron. Yeah, like Saren might know about. There's pages of dialogue before they start having sex. Has a fun fact about the kids' ages. Oh, go for it. So Maizie's mum like Aria, she felt at the time that her daughter was too young. Oh yeah Game of Thrones. Yeah, so she. Read it and she just gave her the bits that corresponded to her. Yes, So it wasn't going to destroy her child to make her want to clor eyeballs out. Yeah. Yeah. Which actually one. Was so supportive and it was like, yeah, absolutely, go for this, do that role. But I was screen that for you because I love you. Yeah, that's I love thatally nice. Yeah, definitely, and she really did grow up on this show absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So was there any other standout moments from the pilot? No, not for me. What was your favorite scene? Definitely the scene the clip that we just played that is absolutely one of my favorite scenes. Like I said, it was a fantastic opening to all the characters. The shock of that final scene with Brand being pushed from the window, that was okay, I'm in Yeah, I want to watch this show now. I love this show. Yeah, it was really good. But I think one of my favorite scenes would be with John and Tyrian actually, oh nice. Yeah, I thought it was a really nice introduction to Tyrian's character. I mean the brothel scene was as well. But yeah, definitely is it was. It was more about you know, it showed he's intelligen Johns and insightful he was. But I have to say those first couple of episodes with Kit Harrington, he has this perpetual gormulous look with his face. Bless. I mean, I loved his character from the get go. It's nothing. It's just some of the faces that he pulls, and you're just like, Oh, you're just a wee boy, aren't you. And I think, yeah, acts it really well, because a couple of episodes later, I'm not feeling that any Yeah. So as a testament to his acting, I think that he was playing the dumb little boy that he was at the start green boys as they say in Western Ross, and then he's a flourishes quite quickly. But we'll get to that in later episodes. For now, I'm going to play that scene. Your uncle's in the night's watch. She's going back there. Preparing for a night with your family. M I've always wanted to see the wall, yourterial anister, Queen's brother. The greatest accomplishment. You your ned Stark's bastard, aren't you? Huh? In the YEP, did I offend you. Sorry, you are the bustard, though, Lord that it. Stark is my father and Lady Stark is not your mother, making you the bustard. Say it like I tell you any. Yeah, let me give you some advice, bastard and he had back, son, I never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you. The hell do you know about being a bustard? All Dwarves are bustards in their father's eyes. Yeah, I love that. I think it gives you a really good insight. And Tyrian and John and again it's that thing that they were told to do was establish those characters' motives very early, and I think they did that really well with that scene. I agree. So yeah, I've quite enjoyed that. Any other thoughts on that episode before we move. On, there was there was a lot of Danny stuff that I didn't like. What particularly because I'm with you, I'm probably going to agree with everything you say here because I felt it too, but I want to hear what you think. So I think it would have been hard to portray her the same as she has in the books because there's so much internal monologue in the book, and Amelia Clark is absolutely fantastic. Love her. She's phenomenal. Everything about hers phenomenal. Just love her. But it wasn't She wasn't the Danny that I wanted to see. I get that she was trying to put across vulnerable child. She was, but her voice is different. She didn't look like a child, and then she came across as weedy woman rather than vulnerable child finding her strength because she's thirteen thirteen, Yeah, thirteen. In the book, she's so strong, so strong, and she just goes from strength to strength internally, and I think as an actress, that'd be so hard. To put across on screen. Yeah, so I get it, But that was my only negative from episode one. I was just a bit disappointed because I went from watching this years ago, like fifteen years ago, to reading the book, and then straight off the back of that rewatching the season. Yeah, so I really really was able to compare and go, oh, that's not how I felt about that character. To put aside how much I love Amelia Clark, yeah, and go oh no, actually no, that's not how I saw her in my mind. No, I'm agree that it was left for so long for me, Yeah, because I'd done away with Amelia Clark whilst I was reading the book. Yeah, so yeah, that's good point to bad points that I hardly agree with. That I felt that she did come across like weedy women. Yeah, that's a really good way to put it. I didn't have a word for it, but that works. And like I said there, even her voice was different. Yeah, and I really picked up on that. And it's like that for maybe the first couple of episodes and then totally agree until she has a queen like moments until. She becomes Khalisi, Yes, and then she changes. I think it might even be after she takes control sexually. Oh we're going to chat about that when it comes up in the episode. Way well, but yeah, definitely in these first couple of episodes. Her voice, she's trying to do the little voice, and it's not the Danny I remember from the show at any point or from the book. Actually, Danny in the book gives me Sansa vibes on the show right in the respect that she's very vulnerable to begin with. Yeah, and then her trauma she just builds on it and it makes her stronger with every trauma, that girl gets stronger, and that's Danny in the book. But those that first episode or first two maybe, yeah, I wasn't saying it. No, No, that's just our perception of it. Definitely, So I'm interested to hear what our listeners think of it. Oh, definitely let us know. Absolutely. I don't think I have I think if I was to say any negative after re reading the book here, Like I said earlier, I feel like either it was about rushed and I like the book prologue better. I definitely like the book prologue better. I have a question for you before we conclude episode one? What's that? How much visually did you love the crypt in Winter film? Oh? My god, it was. I loved everything visually, So it is. He's done a great job. We got winter Fell. The carvings, carvings, oh my god, everything I imagined in my mind. Definitely to go back after reading the book again and then watch this and just remembering what it was like to see it all for the first time and everything, and also just thinking about like what it must be like for George to have seen his work come to life in that first episode. That must have been amazing. So Jimma Jackson was responsible for design and building and dressing the physical sets on Game of Thrones, and wow, what a great job she did so much research to make things like Winterfell come alive were costumes. Absolutely, what a wonderful job she did. So yeah, she's she's definitely worth a mention. Definitely, she deserves the credit. She's absolutely fantastic. Is there anything else we need to mention before we wrap up episode one? Oh the Dire World? Oh? Absolutely, you found there? Yeah, and they were so cute little bubbies loved it. The scene itself was really fab. It was lovely. There was puppies. If you don't love puppies or something wrong, But the whole thing with theon being like I'm. Going to cut their throat. Oh he was a bit. Yeah, she was like a total He needed a straw to suck up neds ars in that moment big time. But I loved that John found his balls and was like five pups, five star children, and then bless him, he totally found his balls and he got a little puppy in the end. Yeah our ghost absolutely, Yeah, that seems different and respect that the wolf pup it didn't happen so quickly. Yeah, yeah, go further away as well. There's some foreshadowing in that part, isn't there that we had discussed like off air with the Stag. And the Yeah, the stag had killed the dire wolf. Yeah ah oh dear, but no, it's definitely a thing in the fandom that people think that that was a foreshadowing moment, and it's certainly something that Cat believe. She thought it was a bad omen. I definitely remember it was Cat in the book that was like, oh, that's a bad omen. I don't think it really did come true though, because Geoffrey is the one responsible for killing and the last stage. Yeah, but still really good, I believe. Actually, this is actually really important. This scene was the first scene that George wrote. This is this is really it certainly is the first one that you thought of. This is the vision that you have had, this them finding these wolves in the woods in the snow, and this is the vision that he had and the whole idea was born from that vision. Awesome. That's a cool fun fact. So the lore revealed in the episode one was the White Walkers the Long Night. The wall was built thousands of years ago, possibly by Brand the builder and the dire Wolves are connected to the ancient Kings of Winter. So episode two was directed by Tim van Patten again and written by Dave and Dan. Would you like a little reminder of episode two? So Brand remains unconscious, the Royal procession heads south while John, Benjin and Tyrian head north. John gives Aria our sword needle. During the journey, Geoffrey and Aria get into a five areas dire Wolf attacks Geoffrey. Circe demand retribution and the butcher boy Micah is killed and Danny gets married. She does, and this is the bit that we had discussed previously that we were saving that there's a lot of internal monologue there and how brave she is, but also the words, well, the dialogue that she has with Drogo. So Drogo is no, no, She's like, do you know any other words? No, Whereas in the book it's more about Danny taking control of that situation. In the show, it felt like Drogo was taking advantage of Danny within that because there was a lot of tears and it felt like Danny was less in control than she was in the book. Yes, yeah, it did definitely feel that way. It felt less consensual. Yeah, and actually it was for Danny in the book. It was her first time and she did take control in her own mind of the situation, whereas when we saw it visually, all you saw was what was happening outwardly, and. It didn't look great. It didn't look great. No, and this is very why it had to be older actresses, because. Definitely I could not do that same with a thirteen year. Old very it would have been very inappropriate. Very But we've discussed the same thing in the House of the Dragon with young Rania and the brothel scenes with Damon, absolutely age she was supposed to be with. The reason that George had written it that way is because historically that young women were married off at that age, because when they came into their blood, they were fine to be married off and fit to be having children. In our society now we know that's completely unacceptable. However, when we watch a show like this and you have to cast actresses and actors, yeah, it has to be appropriate. This is typical of history as well, and we all know how George loves to draw on history. But for example, Margaret Beaufort Henry the Seven's mother, she was twelve years old, yeh when she had him. That's crazy young and that's what George is trying to portray in this world. And it's on page. It's uncomfortable on page, but it's just not okay on screen. It's illegal, Yes, well, it's illegal, yes, absolutely, So we understand why these characters are being aged up, and therefore all the younger ones who we don't even have to you know, Bran and rick On, they're not going to have any X scenes, but they're still dealing with mature themes. Yeah. Absolutely. There's also which I did see in the behind the scenes, just while we're briefly mentioning Rickorn, there's working with children and animals. If you were to be working with dogs who have to be vicious within a scene, it would be wildly and appropriate to have a three year old child with a dog that is being vicious in a scene. Oh definitely, Even though the dog is. Well trained and handled, it's still wildly inappropriate, very dangerous. But there's a lot of that in the very early episodes. The other animal we have are the crows. The crows, I know and filming were so trainable and very food orientated, and it did play a part in people having breaks when had their lunch and when they had snacks because the crows would pinch the. Snacks, right, Okay, so cool. It kind of deviated from the crow's motivation and they totally had to plan their snacks. Look at this research. That's fab So favorite scenes. What was yours? My first favorite scene, which is not book stuff, this is totally show stuff, was Circe and Catlin and they were having a chat about baby loss. Oh, you really saw a side of Circe that was very vulnerable for the not for the first time, because I think you when she mentions about when King Robert says about going to the crypt, you see her vulnerability or maybe her bitterness there, Yes, there was, there was, but in this scene she's very vulnerable. She's women to women as a mother her, yeah, talking about her baby loss, and kat is so receptive and Circe's her queen. Yeah she should be deferring to her. But it's a very women to women chat. The ideas of station have. Gone within that, Yeah, definitely, And it. Was a lovely scene and the actresses played it so. Well I think. So Yeah, I've definitely wrote down as one of my favorite scenes. I felt like it was it was very clearly showing that despite who Circe is, right, we we know she's a bit diabolical already at this point, even if you're just new at the story. Yeah, but it shows you that she doesn't have funny women friends. Well that too, but Catlin being a lady, she felt that she could open up to her and it wasn't inappropriate. No, but she's she's trying in this scene, she's I mean, she's fishing for information. Yeah. But at the same time, what it shows her as a mother? Yeah, right, because that is Circe to a tea. She is everything is for her children. In a previous off line chat, you called her a lioness and you were absolutely right spot on. Yes, Yeah, she is a lioness and her cubs come first. Yes, And you can tell that this child that she lost, there was so much love there. It was the making of her motherhood and her lioness attitude towards Yeah. Yeah, she's going to protect them no matter what, because that loss that she felt at that time has shaped the kind of mother that's she's going to be. Yeah. I felt a come across really well in the show. But this is an adaptation at this point, because this is a side to Cerce we never see no in the books. I mean, Circe does become a point of view car her later, but at this point, right, we don't get any Circes. You know, this scene didn't happen in the book, did it. No, it definitely didn't. I'm sure of it. No, it wasn't in a Catlin chapter. No, this is the showrunners giving us a little bit more of this character, Circe, giving her multi dimensions. And they absolutely utilized Lenna and Michelle's acting chops. Definitely, definitely, They're both fantastic. Can we just take a moment to talk about the casting overall? Yeah, they have done absolutely brilliant. I feel like every character, even the ones that are don't look anything like the way they were described in the book, like your Taiwan's for example, Right, they don't look how they were described in the book. But still feel like the casting is just on the freaking nose for everything. I love that they went from characters like Sam John Bradley, who had said this was his fourth hour of recorded acting, so it's his first acting job, to massive, massive actors like Charles Dance and Sean Bean. Yeah, and let's not forget James Cosmos because that's who Sam to do his scenes with. Yeah, and then you've got the little kids. So you've gone from actors as young as Art Parkinson who played Rick on Yeah, two actors that are as old as Charles Dance. Yeah. Absolutely, So the. Age spectrum, the experience spectrum is. So vast brilliant. We've got these like brand new actors, these little kids. The kids are great. Actors from all sides of the globe. Yeah, so absolutely, Ian Glenn hometown guys, hometown guy. Then you've got Jason Momoa is Hawaiian. We have Peter Dinklage, who's American. Can I just find well, please give me a Peter Rinklage. Fact. He was the first person cast. That's awesome. He didn't even have to audition. George wanted them, yep, George drink Ledge for Tirian and they got on. And I think that's great. I think that's awesome. Ye, definitely. And we're only going. With characters here who are cast in season one. There's way more diversity as we. Move on throughout the show. So yeah, I mean racially, at this point, we're only dealing with with white people. However, that is only because we've started off in a small area of George's world, and then once we branch out, we do have all races of people that are nations, and it's it's so amazing the way that George has brought in continents races of people. Like even West Ross itself, which is regional. Yeah. So, like we already said, Glenn Scottish, and we've got James Cosmos also Scottish. Yeah, we've got Sean Bean, you know, that's the. Yeah, Emilia Clark is from London. And god, I can't remember his name and I can't remember his character name at the moment either as well. It's just completely gone, is it. No, it's Welsh boy that's in the rig. Oh god, I love him. I can't remember. Oh Alisir Thorn, yes, right, So we've got Alisir Thorne, whose name I can't remember, but. He's Welsh, right, played by On Teal. That's it. So we've got on tail. As I was saying, the regional thing, Westerns is kind of divided up a bit like that. So you've got the North is you know, you've got that Yorkshire kind of accent going on and then further North Bay Island it's very Scottish, yeah, and then King's Landing is very London Cockney. Yeah, that's your brawn. For example, Jerome Flynn, what. Braun is Jerome Flynn. It's taken how many years for that to process in my mind until you said that out loud. I did not see Jerome Flynn. Did you not know? Did you not know? No? I did not know. Did you not know that he was like soldier soldier? Oh my god? How did they different from soldier soldier? I can't even say that soldiers? We had like number one his I know, but they were so cheesy they were they were all came off the back of them doing the Righteous Brothers song in Soldier Soldier and I can't say that, Emma, I can't say soldier soldier. So another actor that has come from another part of the world is Nicola Costa Baldao. Well done on that pronunciation, by the way, I'm not even sure that's right, but I gave it my that's that's the way. I think it's Danish. Yes, it's Danish. That's how you pronounced it in Danish, And like we would read it as. That Coster Wilddow would be English, Nicolai Costa Wildow would be. In according to the pronunciation thing that we looked up. My point with him actually was to point out how good his accent work is and when you hear him talking in interview, you he does have a Danish inflection on his voice. Yeah, but you don't feel it. And absolutely not Jamie, I know, I thought Jamie even the actor. Yeah, they're great, great actor. Absolutely. So let's do favorite clips. So I actually have two favorites from this and their total Lord. Drops right, Yes, there was nice lower drops in this, and I think the scenes were delivered really well and it sucked you in and you were like, oh they really did. So the first one is a Jora one when he's talking to Denaries on horseback. All with the thracky mythology. Yes, the shadow lands beyond the shy they said, there are fields and ghost grass with stalks as pale as mildly blowing. The Nye blood is all other grass. Raki believe the one day it'll cover everything. That's the way the world will end. I love best lower drop is so cool and I'm going to get my tinfoil out. But this well it's not even tinfoil. I think it's actually quite widely accepted in the fandom that it could possibly be a metaphor for the others. The ghost grass that's pale as milk glass, that's going to cover the world. The others in the book are well, they're not even called the others in the show, are they. That's just a term in the book. Yeah, that's book, Karen. So the others, white Walkers. They are often described in the book as milk glass. The way they look. I think, even in the prologue, I think the Walkers they encountered in the prologue is just grid as milk. And then Jorah comes along and he says about the the ghost grass pale as milk glass. So there's definitely you know, this is this is the way George writes. You know there when he uses the same language to describe two things, you're supposed to connect them. Yeah, yeah, And I love this one. And the delivery off the Lord drop it's very good. It's sucking you right in. I love it. What was the other one? Unless you had something? Sorry, I didn't even like you know anything. No, no, no, actually it's part of been a good friend as well. When I know you love something, I'll totally drop it in there because I know they just go off on your on your few on a jaunt. She's got her hat on one right, Yeah, so what was the other? Errian Dariya have a conversation, well, a story that they tell to Danny about the dragon eggs. So for me, this is the way I've interpreted it that it's very visual for me because we all know it was timeline. Do I have to disclose that again? But it's great working with you doing this. I can just say to you Irian Drea, dragon eggs and you have it, which then brings it back for me again, which is really cool. So it's really. Good to work with someone that has such great knowledge of the story because we're all the same. We read a book once, you don't get everything the first time. Not with this. There's so much Fuch I know loads about this stuff. But I've still got so much that I don't know. I reckon, there's still more that I don't know. Lesson don't have memorized than I do. And. Doesn't mean you remember it because there's so much, because you do remember the bits that you want to remember in. The moment, Yes, exactly, yeah, No, it. Is great to work with somebody that really remembers these bits and then can remind me so well. This is one that I do remember. I absolutely love this story. This is one of those ancient myths that everyone's got their theories on where the dragons come from and what this story means and things. But this is the moon cracks and dragons were born story. It's a cool story. I'm gonna let Doria tell it. Yeah, she tells it so well. I so enjoyed that. Have you ever seen a dragon? Dragon gone Kalisi everywhere, even in the east, No dragon, brave men kill them. It is none. It is non. I trader from Calf told me the dragons come from the moon. The moon. He told me the moon was an egg Calisi. That once there were two moons in the sky, but one wandered too close to the Sun and it cracked from the heat. Out of it pourt a thousand thousand dragons, and they drank the Sun's fire. Moon is no egg. Moon is goodness, wife of Sun. It isn't No, it is non. Leave me with her. I love that. That is so cool. So yeah, you've got the DOTHRACI beliefs that the moon is the goddess and there's also another. And I think I didn't realize it until I had listened to this clip wise for our podcast that Ramond Joade absolutely sets the mood. Within you and you're not aware of it. And when I did watch some behind the scenes stuff, this man is so interesting and he plans everything to death right. He has different themes for every world, well, for every sort of city and place, and he just and he adds little atmospheric instruments in yeah, to hit the point home, and you're not aware of. It, verecially subtle. It's so cool. But when you listen to it overheadphones when you're podcasting, damn, that's what it is. It's very cool. Yeah. I mean I always hear the music now ever since I studied music for media, and I actually did an essay on a later episode of Game of Thrones seeing the music and how the music's done. So now I always hear it every time I watch a scene now, especially when it's something we're podcasting on. I hear that now, and I don't think I would have picked up on that as much the first time round, when I watched this. When I watch it now, the way the mood changes from from moment to moment, I love it, and Rama Joaddi is one of the best. I feel like he sneaked up on me there only in this moment listening to it, have I gone ah, dude, that is why I saw preferred this. Yes, and it was nothing to do with the visual. It was all audio. Yeah, so you preferred that to yes. And I'm usually I preferred the book situation. Yes, the audio changed my perception of that scene. No, definitely, It's lovely, it's a good scene, and it's a great Lord drop. I love it. This is one of my favorites. This is one of my favorite mysteries of ice and fire. What does this story mean? I don't believe that this is where the dragons came from. I don't believe that the story is real. But I think in mythology, both real and not, it's shooting stars and meet ears and things like that are often being represented as dragons. So this could be George just throw as in something there that feels like a real world myth Yeah, or it could mean something. Who know. And until we get winds winter, we probably never will know, we might we might never know. We might never know at this point, even if George finishes the book, we might never get the answer to what that story is about. And that's okay because that makes it more real. The world building, Yeah, it's fantastic. Let's take a moment to just, you know, appreciate the world building. It's absolutely brilliant. And that's also these stories I. Have to leave the reader hanging, yeah, or they won't come back. Yeah, we want more and more and more. Definitely. So any other thoughts on the Lord drops there? No? Okay, So my favorite scene act I have a couple. There was a few moments in this episode that I really liked. I would have loved to have clipped. I would have loved to clip sticking with the pointy end. That is a good scene. Loved that John and Ned part in ways. He says, next time we meet, I'll tell you about your mother. Oh that's heartbreaking, isn't it. Yeah, Like, I feel like it doesn't really hit you the first time you've watched that until the end of the season when Ned's dead. And I think also the upping age of the actors detracted from the line because at that point in time, John is fifteen. Yeah, so Ned is like, no, he's not old enough to know that secret. That's a massive one. However, if he had been what Kit Harrington looks is about eighteen, if he had been an eighteen year old man in that time, Ned would have been able to tell him something like that because he would have been a man. Y whereas he's a boy and yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's crossing that line from boyhood to man, yeah, speaking his journey to and he's never going to know. I wish mister Raymond now, god man, this is how Dan and Dave got the job, by the way, because that was the thing that won over George is that they knew the answer to the question who is John Snow's mother? So even although technically that reveal that John, we could have got that job. Yeah, exactly, we could have totally got that job. I knew that the first time I read. It, that John Aaron lyon state scene. Just to be clear, here we are. But the thing about that reveal when it happens later down the line, although we're way off book by this point, we can still count that as canon because Darren Da've got the job. I'm guessing it, so we know that's right, even though George has never officially revealed it. So, yeah, it's canon, right R plus L equals J. Yeah, it's a fact confirmed. So I would have loved to have clipped those scenes. But I actually think I want to give a we shout out to Sansa on this occasion, because this is one of the few moments where you see Sansu's emotions take over in her airs and graces and her fear. It's all gone in that moment. She's just feeling what she's feeling, which is, there's no way you're killing my fucking dog, yeah, or my dire wolf. But yeah, I'm gonna play the scene because Sophie Turner just smashes this for me. Now, child, tell me what happened, Tell it all, and tell it true. It's a great crime to lie to a king. OK. I don't know. I don't remember. Everything happened so fast, I didn't see. She's as wild as an animal of hers. I want her punished. Would you have me do whip her through the streets? Damn it? Children fight, it's over. Geoffrey will bear these scars for the rest of his life. That little girl. Disarm. You see to it that your daughter's disciplined. I'll do the same with my son. Likely or Grace, I'm one of the diald oh, sirs, one of the beasts that savaged your son. I forgot that. We found no trace of the dire wolf, your grace. No, so we have another wolf. Oh no, you're so mean. As you will. God mean die. Wolf's not get her dog. She'll be happier for it. Doesn't mean, lady, does he? No not, Lady Lady didn't bite anyone. She's good, lady. Rage, stop them, don't let them do it. Please blase, It wasn't lady. Is this your command, your grace? Oh, it's pleaded done. Ah. That's Scene's powerful, isn't it. Sophie Turner is wonderful. She absolutely smashed that. She's absolutely a wee girl. That's please don't kill my dog. However, Sean Bean, the the pain in his voice is friend of Is this your command, my grace? Like? Yeah, oh my god, Like you're my friend, you're my king. This is my daughter and she. Loves her dog. Come on, father to father, friend to friend, And that one line delivers all of that stuff. Very superb I absolutely love Sean being. Brilliant scene, isn't it. It's absolutely brilliance. Sean's fantastic, Sophie's fantastic. But fun fact, Sophie Turner adopted the dog that played Lady. I love that. I love that. Girl. Yes, definitely, she got to take her home and eventually adopted that dog. Oh that's so nice. But it is a brilliant scene and I think for me it was the most powerful in the episode. Yeah, So did you have any other scenes that stood out to you? So we have CSI Cat of course, Yes, Cat goes on a mission to. Find out what's happened. Why is Brann in this step? Yeah, definitely that's scene. Of course, we're introduced to the catspaw dagger in this episode. That is huge, and I would say in season one we're introduced to what I noted was three of the major blades. I don't know if you noticed anymore. So there's neds what's ned called ice. So we've got Cat's paw and. We've got long claw long claw. Yes, so yeah, there's three pieces of Lady and Stale revealed as in season one. That's it's more lower. I suppose isn't that actually cool? But yeah, and this one, it's the cat'spaw dagger, the piece of great mystery in season one, we don't see it again for a while, and then it pops up towards the end, and then it pops up again and houses the dragon. That was the moment that House of the Dragon fans. Yeay, we love it. Just a bloody dagger. Everybody was like so excited. Where were we? We both done our favorites yep. And I don't have anything else for that episode. Yeah, I just want to add in the last Lord drops for the episode. So, so in this episode we learned about Valeria and the cataclysm that destroyed it. You mean the Doom Go Boom, the Doom Go boom. Indeed. So we also learn about the magical knowledge and that the dragons were lost. So the differences from the book is that they encounter with micah Ari and Geoffrey is longer in the book, and the following from Ladies' death shows a greater internal conflict between both Sansa and Ned I would say, yeah, and also Tyrian's interaction with John at the wall, it's a lot deeper, and you know, they get any a lot more the fact that they're both outsiders and. There's a bonding that goes on there on a not on a deep level. It's an understanding of each other, which they don't acknowledge outwardly. No, they don't outwardly acknowledge it, and you do see it a little in the show, but it's just. I think the difference there is the face acting. Yeah, you get it from the actors that yeah, okay, what you're saying, I can I can relate to that. You're all right, dude, yeah, yeah, Yeah. There's a silence there that is an understanding silence between. Them, definitely. So that's it for episode two, unless you have any other thoughts. No, So moving on to episode three. This was titled Lord Snow, directed by Brian Kirk and written by Dan and Date. The synopsis of episode three was Ned arrives at Kingsland in and joins the Small Council Renley, Benathayan, Varis, Grandmaster, Pie Sell and little Finger Bailish. Peter Pattire also known as Pattire in the audio book That Guy, That Guy, Ned is shocked by the Kingdom's debt and Robert spending Aria resents Sansa for lying about the dire Wolf incident and begins training with Cyrio. Farrell Catlin secretly arrives and meets with Ned and Little Finger, who offered to help find the truth. At Castle Black, John becomes disillusioned with the Knight's Watch poor conditions, and Tyrian sees the Watches decline firsthand bond with John before heading back south. The Naies begins asserting herself with Drogo and stands up to the series cool. So did you think of this episode? So yet another good episode, lots packed in there. I did really like the scene with Aria and her dad old Ned. Oh when he finds her with the sword. Yes, Oh, he handled it so well, didn't he did? He was very sweet. I just kept thinking, like I remember the scene in the first time round, and I just remember going, put, don't answer the door in your hand, he's going to take that off you. As the view, you become ten again with something you're not supposed to have. Definitely, Aria is no scared though she's well brave. Yeah, didn't phase her for a second. Yeah, it's his laugh when she's she says he's got a name. Yeah, absolutely, it's got a name, has it? Okay? Yeah, I like that scene. Another scene that well, that was a happy scene. There was a sad scene where watching it, knowing further on into the story, Ned and Cat they'll never see each other again after this point, I know, So that was quite sad. It was very sad. Actually, I had the same feelings in the previous episode when John and Ned partied ways, and now it's the same at this point as well. Yeah, definitely, there's lots of those moments when you know, when you know the story. Yeah, it's interesting as a someone who already knows what's going to happen now. I like her rewatch. I think it's pretty cool actually, when yeah, you do that rewatching, you can rewatch the scenes knowing what you know, and sometimes it's something like that like oh, that's going to break my heart, and other times you can see the foreshadow and that you never saw the first time. Right, That's that's the best part of it a rewatch for me. I think I always find something new every time I have a rewatch. Yeah, So any other scenes that stood out to you, there were a lot. Those were the two that I think were kind of light and shade from each other. My favorite one was actually Circe and Geoffrey, which we have a clip of. Yes we do. Oh please, it's nearly healed. Please, it's ugly. A king should have scars. You fought of a direwolf. You're a warrior like your father. I'm not liking I didn't fight off anything. It bit me, and all I did was screen the two starks, both of them. That's not true. You killed the beast. You only spared the girl because of the love your father bears her father I didn't when air is to Garian sat on the iron throwne. Your father was a rebel and a traitor. Someday you'll sit on the throne and the truth will be what you make it. Do I have to lie her? Yes, she's very beautiful and young. And if you don't like her, you only need to see her on formal occasions, and when the time comes to make little princes and princesses. And if you'd rather fuck painted horse, you're fuck painted horse. And if you'd rather lie with noble virgins, so be it. You are, my darling boy, and the world will be exactly as you. Want it to be. I like this scene because it's not in the book. This dialogue and I quite like you see another side of Circe again. Yes, but which is cool. She's a vilage, She's a tactical thinker, and she seems to use the painful things that have happened to her and turn them around and make that what she feels is something that will build her kids up strengths. Yeah, it turns them into strength. I mean, I'm not sure if it's entirely great parent in but at the same time she's no, it's horrible parent and terrible parenting, but she's kind of showing them the reality of ruling that you get to make the world what you well, I mean, she's she's. Got a little bitch of a son that's going to be king, So she's really what she's doing is trying to teach him not to be a little bitch. She really is, and to that end, she's doing a good job. I mean, it kind of backfires on her. She kind of turns them into a little Well that's maybe it was always a little sociopath, but I don't think she helped. No, definitely, but it is. You can say that she's there for her kids and the way that she knows how to be she's not. She's maybe not teaching them the greatest values, but in her head she's teaching them. The right thing. Yeah, she's she's trying to do right by him. Any other thoughts on the scene, No, what were your scenes that you liked? I had a couple. There was a scene with Jamie and Circe in which they're well, it's made very clear that they are responsible for the attack on brand. I mean, the Old Nan scene is absolutely fantastic. I love her storytelling style. It was so intense. It was really, really, really cool. Actually, I didn't prepare the Old Nan clip, but I might drop it in in the edit because it's just such a cool scene. So if I do, it's here right now. Don't listen to it. Crows are all liars. I know a. Story about a crow. I hate your story. I know a story about a bo or. You hated stories I could tell you about Sir Duncan, the tall those were always your favorites. Those weren't my favorites. My favorites were the scary ones. Oh, my sweet summer child, what do you know about fear? Fear is for the winter, when the snows fall one hundred feet deep. Fear is for the long night, when the sun hides for years, and children are born and live and die all in darkness. That is the time for fear, my little Lord. When the White Walkers move through the woods. Thousands of years ago, there came a night that lasted a generation. Kings froze to death in their castles, same as the shepherds in their hoods, and women smothered their babies rather than see them starve and wept and felt the tears freeze on their cheeks. So is this the sort of story that you like? In that darkness, the White Walkers came for the first time. They swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with their packs, and pale spiders big as house. Quite like when Rob comes in at the end. You can clearly tell that Rob's had old dance stories his whole life as well. Yeah, just like laughing like, I don't listen the old man. She told me that we all live in the eye of a one act giant called mccumba. Yeah something like that. Yeah, Yeah, that's really cool. Do love that scene. And the actress that plays old Man just absolutely brilliant. She's just nailed the role. Ye for me. Old man in the show and old Man in the book are just yeah, totally. It works so well. It was fantastic cast. But my favorite scene again would be something that is not in the book. Again, it's given us a little bit more insight into non POV characters, and yeah, I love it. It was the scene where Robert is with Barrison sell Me and he's talking about his first kill, and then Sir Bariston talks about his and then Robert invites Jamie and I wanted to clip the whole lot, but we would have been here for a good five minutes. So I'm going to take it from when Jamie enters. The room we're telling war stories. It was your first kill, not counting old men. One of the arlos in the Brotherhood. I was there that day. You're only a squire sixteen years old. You killed Sam and toyin with the country past. Best move I ever saw. Good Vitratyn. But they lacks stamina, your outlaw and they last words, I cut his head off. So now, oh dear, what about Aristagerian? What did the mad king. Say when you stabbed him in the back? I never asked, did he call you a traitor. He plead for a reprieve. He said the same thing he'd been saying for. Ours and them all, Oh, that's all your grace. I think that's the first time you get this first hint that maybe Jamis Kingsleyn might have been a bit justified. Yeah, yeah, I love that scene for that. That's one of the reasons. The other, like I said, it's just getting to see a little bit deeper into some non POV characters, and it's made very clearly that Barriston sell Me is just like one of these heroes of legend. Yeah, back in his day, Jamie's in all of a bit movie I ever saw. Robert was absolutely trying to wind Jamie up there and trigger them. Yeah, and it didn't work, and it was he was getting more frustrated the longer the scene went on. There Jamie completely shuts him up. Though. I love that scene. It's just it's great on so many levels. It was really well written, really good insight in some characters and letting us know some deeper levels of them. So that's my favorite. Fab Did you have any other notes for that episode? Bits that stood out? There was a scene that neither of us have mentioned, and I think we'll both be in agreement. That is absolutely fantastic. It's Aria meeting Cirio for l for the first time. Definitely, that's one of my favorite characters. Just amazing. Definitely. So in the book Ario was training with Cirio, was like, there's a lot more sessions and there's a lot more philosophy lessons. But I think the cast was absolutely fantastic. One hundred percent agree with that. Yeah, I really really love this guy and it's such a shame that we just get for a few episodes in season one. It's one of those characters I would really have loved to seem developed, but there's no room for him in this story. George has got bigger ideas than we could ever presume to think of, sadly. Sadly, what else happened in this episode that might be worth a discussion. It's more get to know the characters, isn't it. It's a lot of that going on. We do have the moment with Bellish saying he knows where the dagger came from and that it's his dagger. Yeah, Tyrian won it in a wage? Was it? Am I right there? In a wager? Yes? Absolutely so in rewatch. I thought that it's just acted so well because I know what happened, but I still went is he lying? I know? You mean, I have done that in other scenes, and maybe that one is. Well, it's fantastic how they stuck you in and you're just so that was kind of. Saying about old Man. And on the edge of my seat listening to her story, I'm like, totally something. Then what happened? I know what happened. That's really good. I know more than what she actually tells in her story, but I was still sucked into it. Anything else that stood out for you, No, not in my notes. No, So what other differences have we got for the book? So the whole dysfunction of the Small Council is Ned thinks about it a lot more than he says about it. So yeah, it's in later scenes and Ned's thinking about things and stuff like that's he's thinking, oh my god, what a shit show. So there's a lot more of that in the book. Catlin's arrival is a little bit more secretive, and yeah they're meeting with Little Finger, reveals more about their shared past, but they opted to do the whole Catlin and Little Fingers shared past story in a different way in a later episode, which we'll talk about briefly when we get to it. But yeah, it's more we find out more here than we do. Yeah, it's smoothed around. So they've kind of postponed that story a little bit in the series because we find out that quite a lot at this point in the book. The lower and legends that were dropped in this episode were about the First Men and the pact with the Children of the Forest, a wee bit more about the Long Night, of course, from old Man White Walkers and ice Spiders big as Hounds love it, and we also learned that the Andles arrived later are bringing the faith of the Seven with them too. Before we move on to episode four, any other thoughts, No, there we go. Episode four So episode four is Cripple's Bastards and Broken Things. It was directed by Brian Kirk and written by Brian Cogman, first one not written by Dan and Dave Cool. The synopsis for the episode is that Ned investigates John Aaron's death, He visits one of Robert's bastards, Gendre Tyrian, visits Winterfell and designs a saddle that would allow the now paralyzed Brand to ride again. At the Wall, Samuel Charley arrives and is mocked for his cowardice until John and the others defend him. Denari stands up to Vissers, who strikes her and she threatens his life. Catlin encounters Tyryan at an inn and Rally's support to arrest him for Brand's attempted murder. Well, before we go on, we have to talk about Sir Hugh. Yeah, yeah, we do much love for Jefferson Hall. In this room. That man hasn't aged a day, he has not has a He looks absolutely the same. He's so funny though. He's such a good actor. He's so good at comedy. And it's funny because, like Sir Hugh, isn't he's not a comedic character. It's not a comedic character at all. It's quite a serious part that he has to play in the story. But the scene that we see him is so funny. It's just such a ponds he's so in love with himself and Jefferson plays I'm absolutely brilliant. It's no wonder that they got him back. Yeah, so, yeah, definitely. We're also introduced to Gendri great character. Yes, yeah, love Gendri coming back until later and again later, but that's not in book canon. Genji only comes. He's there with Aria Haronhall in season two, but then we don't see much of them again after that, apart from the Stantus scenes. Interesting. So what scenes stood out to you. I really loved the saddle scene. I thought that was fab. Oh yeah, Yrian's saddle from me. Yeah, yeah, it was really really cool. Because there was the whole him entering winter Fell and being very unwelcome, and he made a point of saying, this is it's inappropriate to treat a lord that way, welcome the winter to your house, and Rob's he looks like a man, but we know from the books he's just a little boy and he's playing a lord of Winterfel. But he does it really well. He does. And I just loved the fact that Terrian was like, look, you're being rude. However, I've come with a gift, and it's a nice side of his character is again you'd see some goodness in him, which he's not a good guy in the books. No, he's not as good as he is show. No, he's way darker. Yeah, but his resentment of Circe and later Jamie and he's farther twisting. Yeah, but it's a nice thing that he does. So I really like that scene. I love it. Yes, it was. It was certainly. I remember this being something that I really loved my first watch. Yeah it was. It was like, oh, that's so cool, well done, you showed them. Now I'm all teams stark, but in this scene they were rude to Terry end and they deserve to put them in their place, and he did it well. He did it very well. And then I loved that. They were like, oh, yeah, you can stay and he's like, naw, you're all right, I'm gonna go fin my Cilla Brothel bye. Such a good scene. What else you got? So I loved it. We were introduced to Sam although oh I just felt so sorry for him. Oh, I know, it's heartbreaking a little piggy. He's so sweet, he's so scared. I know, it's bless them and they're so mean Tom. But this is another scene where Kit Harrington has the gormless face on. Yes, yes, that goes on for a good couple of episodes here, Oh Kit Harrington and he's to be garmless face it's so funny. It's like, I feel like Kit Harrington and his dumb face and Amelia Clark in her little baby voice the same thing. They're both like older actors trying to play someone very younger who's going to grow up very quickly. In those episodes, they're over emphasizing the youth. Yeah and the greenness. Yeah. No, you're right, one hundred percent. John Bradley that plays Sam Charlie, I just think, oh, how cute is your first acting job. This is like your first real big boy job. I know how massive for him, but no fa I think one of. Those hours was the original pilot. Yeah, so yeah, he got to do the pilot twice. Are exciting for him, definitely, And he's fantastic. You know, he's out there now. He's appearing in lots of different things, so good for him. I like the amount of careers that this show has made. Yeah, me too. Definitely any others. So my standout one is a weird one and it's a great scene visually, we have the clip, Okay, so we'll listen to the clip and apologies and advance because watching this visually was cool, Listening to this is cringe. Oh right, Okay, yeah, I've been there was wondering what is the scene? We've talked about this. I have a list, I now remember what it is. Okay, guys, so this is Doria and Viseri's in the bath. Yep. Yes, it's a very long scene. But there's a lot of slurpy noises that are not fun. We haven't done this just the audio yet. I'm actually a little nervous me too. Have you seen one a pirate ship? A dragon? No? No, last one died many years before I was born. I'll tell you what I have seen. They're skulls. They used to decorate the throne room in the Red Keep. When I was very young, just three or four. My father used to walk me down the roads and I'd recite their. Names for him. When I got them all ride, he'd give me a sweet. The ones closest to the door were the last ones they were able to hatch, and they were all stunted and wrong. And the skulls it's no bigger than dog skulls. But as she got closer to the iron throne, they got bigger and bigger and bigger. There was Giscar and val Ryan. See this is so interesting, yeahs. Cherny maraxies, big, oh dear. The dread who's fire faun? The seventh kingdoms into one. That's quite enough of that, That's plenty. But I love this bit of dialogue. Now it's not canon. Well, the last three dragons are right, We've got Maraxi's Vagar and Bellerian. We all know what those dragons are, yes, the conqueror and his sisters. But these other five dragons that are mentioned is really interesting because he's talking about west Ross and we know that when in our Turgarian first came to Dragonstone twelve years before the Doom after his daughter prophesied it, they came with five dragons and Bellerion was one of them. But the Seri's just listed five dragons there. And I have a theory on that the fifth dragon could be Tyrian at one point, and the book refers to a three thousand year old dragon skull paying one of the skulls in the caep Okay, and a three thousand year old dragon skull would be long before the conquest obviously, so that may be the dragon he's talking about, and it may be there somewhere in the Age of Heroes lore. We do hear of a couple of dragons, but I believe they are named. I'd really have to scour the entire World book then all five books in order to find this informa. And if anybody knows this information, you could save Fiona a massive amount of time. Yeah, definitely, that would be great to know. Are all the dragons that are mentioned in the Lower named? Is there any unnamed dragon that could be that one dragon? So maybe this is just adaptation land. This is they're trying to just throw in a little bit if given some names to dragons that we already know off Or is this something that's in there somewhere way deep in the Lower that that I've missed. You know? I mean the dialogue isn't in the book. So so where has this come from? Did it come from George? Did it come from Dan and Dave? Did it come from Brian Cogman who wrote the episode? Yeah, I want to know. If anybody has the answers, please let me that'd be great. So, yeah, what were your thoughts on the scene? It was your you're seeing to bring up, but I just went off on a wee bit. Sometimes I do this fire one in there that is going to be something that you'll go. Draft on a see she knows me so well. The listeners love it, oh, I hope. So Really, the reason I liked it is because they mentioned dragons. It's as simple as that. He actually says dragons names, and we get we just get to hear about dragons. I love it. Every time we hear about dragons. It's always good because at this point there are no dragons in the world, you know, watching it for the first time and it's like, oh, dragon lare, yes love a bit of dragon lare. So yeah, now that we've seen House of the Dragon, we can picture Vagar, we can picture Nana in our minds and little imagine Little Vicei's while the Mad King was still alive. Mad King's giving him sweeties for remembering the names, and it all just kind of connects it together, which is is really fab for a rewatch. It's good, fun, very very cool. So that's why it was a standout for You can picture aries Targetium with these long, curly fingernails and he's unkempt hair, going, would you like us, sweetie? Tell me all the dragon names. Oh. Childcatcher vibes definite. Childcatcher ribes creepy so any other thoughts on, No, let's let's hear what you like from this episode. So my favorite scene has to be the closing one Catlin's Catlyn, when Catlin arrests Herry in. I love this scene practically verbatim, hm, yep to the book, it's it's spot on. But the delivery from Michelle Fairley is fantastic. The incredulous look on appeared Innklage's face throughout the scene, Bronze amusements or Roderick's shock, everything, everyone else in the room going, where is this going? I'm so sucked in what's happening? This is amazing. I have no idea what's going on? She's gone from yes I lawyer. Yeah, it's not lawyer absolutely ah like suits eat your heart out. Yeah, brilliant scene. So let's see that, Lady Stark. What an unexpected pleasure. I'm sorry to miss you at Winterfeld, Lady Stark. I was still Cutlin Tully the last time I stayed here, you, sir? Is that the black bat of Haron Hall I see embroidered on your coat? It is lady and his lady went a true and honest friend to my father, Lord Hosta Tully. Of river Run. She is. The red Stallion was always a welcome sighted river Run. Other counts Jonas Bracken amongst his oldest and most loyal bannermen. A lord is honored by his trust. We didn't know much about the Black when we first saw this. I don't quite see the purpose of this. I know your schedule as well, the twin towers Afrey. How fares your lord, sir. Lord Wald as well, my lady. He has asked your father for the honor of his presence on his ninetieth name day. He blends to take another wife. Has Raba Jawaddi doing his thing there again building the tens. This man came into my house as a guest, and they're conspired to murder my son, a boy of ten. In the name of King Robert and the good lords you serve, I call upon you to seize him and help me return into winter fill to the King's justice. Love it well, I've got goosebumps tingly. Absolutely, it's a brilliant scene. Is so good, so well acted. There's a couple of lower discrepancies in it, well, No, mainly the one sis Lady Went. Yes, this is about Lady Went, who is actually like Caitlyn's grandmother, right, Okay, she might have played that card. But I think this is like George is still developing the backstories of these characters. I don't think those connections came out until later on, So at this point is just naming names. Didn't really think about the fact that Catlin is a Went on her mother's side, which is something that came out later. But like I said, he's just developing the lower as he goes, Yeah, and filling in a little bit of backstory here and there. And I think George is notorious for forgetting staff the stuff he writes, so he may have when he's decided to make Catlin half went. He probably forgot that he did that and that scene because it's the kind of detail I think if George knew he did it, he would it's a lot to remember, to be fair, Oh my goodness, that's why he has Ellio and Linda, Ellio and Linda the keeper off of horse's eye color. But yeah, that's you know, Ellie and Linda refers to when he can't remember little details like that, and even Elliot and Linda get it wrong. There's a couple of discrepancies in the World Book a couple of things that are just just just wrong, but they're all corrected on the wiki. There's always that there's a little you know, asterix at the bottom saying in the World Book it says, but actually this is the case. Yeah, and then they keep the wiki as well, so they've absolutely corrected their own little mistakes here and there. There's a lot of information and sometimes that's go wrong, and that's one of them. But still love the scene. Seem as a fantastic. Yeah goose bumps, like you said, yeah, goosebumps all tingly so yeah, I don't think really are there was a lot going on and it's more character building, yeah, And there was nothing pivotal, so much accept really that moment. So the differences from the book. Terrian's visit to Winterfell includes a warm exchange from Bran, so Bran is a little bit more welcoming. In the book. John's defense of Sam is more detailed, emphasizing the bonds that he forms at the wall. He's you know, because again it's that inner monologue, so you get to know he's, you know, it's hard to read with that gormless look on his face. Absolutely so. But in the book, we get a lot more of what he's thinking, and who he likes and who he's feeling sorry for and feeling who he's feeling protective off. Yeah, so yeah, that definitely is the journey's given far more time in the book. Yeah, there's lots of additional nights as well, and while conversations are going on, there's a little fights going on over there that we're whereas in the show we're only really seeing a couple of them, particularly Sir Gregor and Sir Hugh. So that's it. Ned's investigation is it feels a lot richer because we're getting a lot more of what's going on in his head, and he's you know, he's thinking about events that have happened and connections between people and things like that that give us the reader a lot more of the world building that's going on there, whereas in the show you've just got Sean Bean's great face accent. Yeah, and his face accent is good, but it's not that good. I cand of give us all that information that we get it from inside his head and he's in our monologue. So, yeah, did you notice any other differences? I had really sparse notes for this episode me too. I think it just comes down to what I was saying about it just being a bit of a character building. Yeah, definitely it was. I think it was the hump episode. I think so too. Yeah, and that's usually number five. We've got a hard premature hump. Oh dear, where do we come up with these premature up line? And I know things in this episode We learned that the dragon eggs are relics from ancient Valeria, and that people believe that they've been turned to stone over the centuries were no different, They're just sleeping, and that we also learned that the Targarians have magical blood capable of prophecy and fire resistance. Cool, very cool. These are the kind of things that kept me hanging on thinking, please let the dragons come back, Please let the dragons come back. They're dropping too much. Dragon or the dragons have to come back. What came first, the dragon or the egg? And Game of Thrones? It was definitely the egg, right, So I think that's us for episode four, unless you have anything else that you can think of. Nope, me neither. So Episode five The Wolf and the Lion, directed again by Brian Kirk, and this one was written by Bran and Dave. So the synopsis is that Catlin takes Tyrian too the erie where her sister Lisa rules in madness and paranoia. Ain't that the truth? Terrian is imprisoned in a sky cell, so creepy, like that is like my worst nightmare. Robert and Ned argue over killing Danaies Renley and Laurs. Tyrrell are hinted to be lovers. I think it's more than hinted, oh dear. So Jamie constronts Ned over Tyrian's capture and attacks him in the street. Ned's guards are killed and Ned is wounded. I believe in the book a horse falls on his leg and yeah, CRUSH's it. Yeah, you're right, instead of the guard stabbing him with a spear. But it did make for a slightly more entertaining scene when after the guard done that, Jamie just punches him, cleaning the face. Yeah, it's just like that was not a clean fight. I wanted to kill him, and now I can't kill him because you've maimed them. So yeah, it was quite slightly funnier in that sense, But I feel like it made light off that moment, and yet there wasn't enough of like Ned's pain over joy being killed. Ned is absolutely destroyed by this in the book, and that did not come across in the TV show at all. No, like you were saying previously, there's great face acting from Sean Bean in the moment where he sees that he's been killed, but it doesn't portray as well as in the book, I mean obviously, but yeah, yeah, definitely, and I can't visually see that he's upset. But yeah, I, like I said, we're going to have swings and roundabouts here, there's going to be some stuff that is just better because you saw it as visual. Yeah, but then there's other bits just because of what's going on in someone's head that the book's always going to be the better medium. Yeah, without a doubt. So aside from that tangent, what stood out to you in that scene. Well, the attorney. The attorney was cool, particularly because of the hound. Yeah, that was the part of it that I really liked. Sansor as well, and all the stuff with the Night of Flowers and she's just loving it. She's so enjoying it, and it was everything that she's expected being in kings Landing would be, being in the South and sitting up there with the queen and. Yeah, you're going to remember, like one of the biggest stories that she'll probably have heard is Knights and Ladies and Knights and Ladies. Yes, but specifically would be Regar Turgarian bestowing ah, yeah, his favor to Leanna. It's like a wreath of blue roses. I think it was. That's one of the stories that Samsa would have grown up with. So for that to happen to her, it's like all her little romantic dreams coming true. So very cute, very cute scene. Indeed, what others have you got? So I did wonder was I imagining it? Is Renley so pathetic in the book and he's not. Actually, he's a much stronger manly man he is in the book. He's a Barrathian, yes, whereas absolutely no shade to the actor whatsoever or the writer. No, it's just he was portrayed a bit more weedy. I felt, oh, definitely leaving Loris with his wee skinny arms. Yeah, it feels more manly than he is in that episode. Yeah, Renley's I just he's just a better character in the book. He's more rounded, he's more depth he's got a lot more stag symbolism. It comes across as a Barrathian, the younger of them, but still a strong Barrathian type figure. And yeah, he's a bit weedy in the book, I think. So there's also the Aria finding the skulls, so that was really cool. Yes, after Vizeri's talking about them. Yeah, it was nice to go from that in one episode to actually seeing the skulls in the next episode. Yeah, those scenes in the book were it's scarier. She was terrified, she was so scared, and she couldn't see them properly, she could just feel them. It's times and till her jet eyes adjusted a bit. And oh, yeah, it was much creepier in the book, but still brilliant to watch. Loved it. And there's that really interesting scene there between Alerio and Faris that we see that there's a connection there which has never been full explored in either the book or the show. Yet we know there's something there, and there's plenty theories out there in the fandom of how they are connected. They are definitely part of some conspiracy together that involves the Naies and later on a character that's not in the show young Griff, But we'll get to that when we get to those books when he's introduced. But yeah, there's there's definitely more to explore there and I can't wait for to find out more about that, hopefully if The Winds of Winter ever comes if. So. Another one was Lisa Aaron. I felt she was older on the show than what I had in my mind. Yeah, and the whole thing with her and Robin was way more disturbing in the show. Definitely, it's very disturbing. It did make me think, how did they do that? They must have had like a fake boob. Totally thought about the fake I didn't think. I just thought, oh, that's for me. That's one of those points in the show where I thought, oh, that's very disturbing to have a young child actor definitely filming that, and I think his parents must have had to have a lot of chats with him about that particular scene. Yes, definitely coming at this from a mum angle, it's quite upsetting. Actually, it is really bizarre, very very definitely one of those shocking Game of Thrones moments. Yeah, definitely, And then there's a few of them. So my standout clip from this episode was King Robert and Circe. Obviously it's not the book because they're not POV. And the dialogue is really really good. They talk about their history together. Yes, yes, they talk about politics and stuff first and decisions and right, yeah, they talk about some of the politics at the time, some decisions that are on the table. They seem like, you know, a couple, how a ruling couple should be discussing the affairs of the day together. But it also makes feels very like bitterness. I think, oh yeah, but what I was going to say was I feel like you also very much get the impression that they don't have conversations like this usually. But it was really nice scene to say. It was really, really, really deep and I loved everything about it. I wish we could had time to play the whole clip, but it was it was like six seven minutes long, wasn't it. It was a really long scene. Mark Haddie and Lena Heady are absolutely amazing in it. So yeah, let's have a listen. So here we seed. Seventeen years later, holding it all together and when you get tired every day, how long can hate old the thing together? Or seventeen years is. Quite a long time. Yes, it is, Yes, it is. M You can see all of it, sadness late in both of them. What was she like? You've never asked about her? Not once? Why not? At first? Just saying her name, even in private, I felt like I was breathing life back into her. I thought if I didn't talk about her, she'd just fade away for you. When I realized that wasn't going to happen, I refused to ask out of spite. I don't want to give you the satisfaction of thinking I cared. Enough to ask fairly honest. Eventually it became clear that my spite didn't mean anything to you. As far as I could tell, you actually enjoyed it. So why now? What harm could leannest a ghost do to either of us? But we haven't done to each other a hundred times over? You want to know the horrible truth, I can't even remember what she looked like. A Shama jawaddy diddy thing they are again. I only know she was the one thing I ever wanted. Someone took her away from me, and seven kingdoms couldn't fill the hole. She left behind. His heart breaking, I felt. Something for you once, you know, I don't know even after we lost our first boy for quite a while. Was it ever possible for us? Was there ever a time, ever a moment? No, Oh it hurts. Does that make you feel better or worse? Doesn't make feel anything. They're fantastic actors. I love the way they both just give each other's lines room to breathe. They don't step on each other's cues in any way. There's just those long dramatic pauses that are completely assisted by Ram and Jowaddi just throwing in a single, sustained note that can make you feel so much brilliant. So what was it about the scene that stood out to you? Just as I said, they're not pop characters, the dialogue was brilliant. Yeah, I have to agree. It was very very good. And it's so so raw. Yeah, and yeah, it was great to see. Is definitely a standout scene, especially from a comparison point of view. From a rewatch point of view, it gave me the impression that she knows that he's going to die soon. Yeah. So she's asking questions that she would just like She like to say these, don't care what the answer is, She just wants to say it out loud for her own sort of closure. Yeah, that's the real answer to the why now. Yeah that he asks, Yeah, because you are going to die soon and I need to get this off my chest and I need to know a few things from you as well. And she's not coming across. There's no malice. It is just it's final words, doesn't it. Yeah, it's that final conversation that we've never had that we need to have. And I think it's actually really clever way of putting across that that vibe that she is responsible that they had that conversation. But like you say, it's it's obvious on a rewatch, but it's less obvious first time round. Yeah. But yeah, it's very clever, very well written scene. I loved it. Did you have any other scenes of note before I give you my clip? Well, Minds was about a good old bit of physical comedy, something that does not come across very well in a book as well as it does, and this is I love this scene for that reason because it is just so funny and it's just something that's unique to the medium of TV. YEA. So this is Ned and Robert at the tourney in the tent when Lancell is trying to help Robert on with his armor. It's made to smoio grace. It won't go. Your mother was a dumb hall with a fat ass, and you. Know that. So wrong. Look at this idiot, one ball and no brain. Put a man's armor on him properly. It's too fat for your armor. Fat fat? Is it? Is that why you speak to your king? That was funny. You don't like the hands joke? Then the king's too fat for his armor. Go find the breastplate stretcher. Long before he figured it out, and. There's another bed at the end of the sea. They then have a serious conversation and then Robert goes to walk out. It's like we tunic where he's Bearey hanging out and Ned stops some He's like, oh, this is a great sight for a kid. Hey, bow before you're king bow you shits. It's just Mark Adie is best. I loved every second of this. It's a great scene. It's so funny and yeah, those moments like that they are exclusive to TV and priceless. So yeah, loved every second of it. Did you have any other notes on this episode? No? I did not, did you? So? Yeah? I mentioned Varis and a Leirio with Aria. I love that. Oh when Aria finds her way out of the tunnels and she comes back to the gates and the guards are like, move it along, yettwle shit like she red a clout around the hear to help with you're heating. She gives it the whole. I'm Aria start and went by. I'll be telling my dad about this. Now do you need to clip around to your to help with your She's so awesome, she a little lady is the manner there. She's brilliant. Love her, love her character. She's so funny and Maze's just she's brilliant. She plays her so well. Other scenes that stood out there was a conversation between Faris and Little Finger. Absolutely loved this. He's like, well, I was watching you earlier and you were up to this and he's like, well, I was watching you watching me And he's like, well, I was actually watching you before that. And then someone comes in and I think it's Rendley and it says right, okay, time for the council. Now let everybody go along, and Little Fingers like what what's going on? And Faris is like, oh, didn't you know the scene's brilliant. They're not POV characters. I think it's absolutely fantastically written. You get a really really good Dina between the two of them that they're constantly trying to outdo each other, and it comes across really well. The scene's very, very funny. I loved it. The only other one that I've got written down here is a wee scene with theon and Ros again, not something from the book. Rose is hilarious with it. She's just like, oh yeah, he gets all threatening with her. She's like, you're a very serious boy, very serious boy with a very serious cock. I love the way Roz handles the on any swiping big I am so yeah, I've spoiled for choice for clips on this one, but Robert and the breast Preye Stretchers that is the winner. So I any other differences from the book have I got naughted here? So we talked about Renley and Lauris's relationship is really only hinted at in the book. It's never is obviously pointed out to as it is in the show. So yeah, just the thing with Lauris and Renley, really that's the only thing that really stood out to me as a massive difference, although I did think Lisa in that whole setup with the sun was definitely worse Visually, it was bizarre, definitely, definitely. So where are we with the lore? So ancient lore? We learn more about the mad King, and we also learned that how it starts Ancestry stretches back to the Age of Heroes and the original Kings of Winter. Episode six, A Golden Crown. I'm not going to lie. This is the episode that sold the show to me for good. I mean, I'm gonna be funny. There was things in the pilot that made me a fan, but this is the one where I actually went right now I'm paying attention. Yeah, I think the first few episodes I might have been farting about on my phone doing other things while I was watching and going, no, this is good, this is quite good. But I'm still playing with my phone, texting people and stuff. From this episode onwards, that's when the phone got put down, put on silent, nobody was disturbing my Game of Thrones time. That's where it happened. So it was directed by Daniel Minihan and written by Dan and Dave. In this episode, Terrian demands a trial at the Erie and chooses a trial by combat, brought on volunteers to fight and wins. Ned Is acting hand orders Gregor Clagane's arrest and also demands the time and Lanister come to Kingsland and to answer for his Bannerman's crimes. Denaries eats a horse, hurt and as a thracky ritual, and her strength urged Drogo's pride VI Series, Raged at being ignored, tries to seal a dragon egg and threatens Denaries. Drogo kills him by pouring molting gold on his head, Denaries declaring that he was no true dragon since fire didn't save him. Another we lower drop there as well. So what did you think of this one? So neither of the start of the episode. I quite liked that there was a moment with Danny with the eggs being very. Hot, and you see that they don't burn her. In a much earlier episode, I can't remember if we mentioned it, but she's in. A very hot bath. Yes, we didn't mention it. No, these are just little snippets of fire doesn't burn a dragon, yees. So it's it's quite cool that throughout the season we're getting little snippets of that that are possibly leading somewhere. Yes, possibly. That was cool. It's teasing, yeah, teazing, definitely. The eating the heart bit was so disgusting, and in the book there's a lot of inner monologue about how how strong she is doing that and the reasons for. Her doing it. And I think Amelia Clark played that really well. Oh yeah, she did. She did. Jasonmore was fabing that scene as well, just the way he's watching art that you can see that. The face acting, Yeah, the face acting was absolutely brilliant. In fact, because he speaks primarily in Dothracky, a lot of what Jason Mamoa does throughout this season is face acting. Yeah, he's very good. Apart from no, no, no, I don't know. We don't like that scene. That's a horrible scene. That's a horrible scene. So what else do you got? Bronze fight scene, it's really cool. Yeah, the fight scene is awesome. I love the choreography for that. That was really cool and pretty much spot onto the book. Actually, yes, yeah, yeah, very well described in the book and it's very well choreographed in the show. And the moon door is awesome, awesome, very cool, very cool, and exactly yes, when comparing what's described in the book. I think they've done a really good job with the erie. Yeah, definitely. And then my favorite scene, which we have a little clip of, is a sensor scene. Oh yes, yes, yes, definitely. I have this one titled does the Penny Drops? That's what That's what it says in my notes. I have the club itself as titled as someone else. I'm sending you both back to Winterfield. What listen, what about Geoffrey? Are you dying because of your leg? Is that where you're sending us home? Please? Father, please don't, you can't. I've got my lessons with Cerio. I'm finally getting good. This isn't a punishment. I want your back in Winterfield for your own safetay. Cow take Syria back with that. Who cares about your stupid dancing teacher. I can't go. I'm supposed to marry Prince Geoffrey. I love him, and I meant to be his queen and have his babies. I'll make you a mattress, someone who's worthy of you, someone who's brave and gentle and strong. I don't want someone braving, gentle and strong. I want him. The greatest thing that ever was. A golden lion, and I'll give him sons with beautiful blonde hair. The Lione's not a sidi idiot, he's a stag like his father. He is not. He's nothing like that old drunking and Ned sees it now, Yeah, he does. Go and girls, get your sept to stop making things. Wait, Tom, but it's not fair. Oh there. But I don't want someone who's braving, gentle and strong. I want him. So what I love about the scene is that it's Ned has reasons that he can't tell his girls and they're just young girls and they're both saying the same thing for very different reasons. Yes, and they're pleading with their far other whilst arguing with each other, which is hilarious. However, Stanza, in a childlike way, absolutely nails the the question that Need's been asking himself, like what is going on? What did John Aaron find? Yes, that's it, that's it. He's nothing like that old king, Yeah, nothing at all. Finally he gets there and you just see that moment watch over them where he realizes. It's absolutely fantastic and it's a pivotal moment in the story. Yeah, and again, Sean Bean with a face acting fantastic definitely. Okay, So moving on the students that stood out for me. I mentioned during the synopsis the sky cells are terrifying. Oh they really were. That moment when Terran wakes up hanging over the edge, Oh my god, I thought I was going to throw up. It's horrible. It triggers all sorts of I get the vertigo big time. So standout scenes was the Worldlines with Bran and Rob scene. Yeah, that was really cool scene. Got to say, this is the first time throughout the series so far that I was siding with Theon. Yeah, I think THEO was right Rob giving it. It wasn't your place, nonsense, It's just utter crap. Theon did what needed to be done in the moment, and I think he made the right choice. Rob just said, I think that was Rob's first kill. Actually, yeah, I think you're right. I think that was rob very first kill. He did well though, he held his own and Theon being there was just exactly what they needed to get through the moment. But Rob did really well protecting his brother in that moment. So it was a great scene, but it was my favorite. So another great scene was, of course, the Golden Crown moment. Yeah, what else was there? Oh? Ned holding court? Of course, sending better than darrying out for the mountain and to time in Lanister to come to court. This is pivotal and I think the same was really really well presented. The drama Ned, you know, standing up when for a start and again Rama Jawaddi doing his thing underneath Ned's speech, making you feel all these emotions that you're supposed to feel in the same He's very good. He's very good at his job, isn't he is? I thought the scene was really good and you needed Raman Jouaddy's music to bring to life what you've read in the book. About that scene. My feeling about it when I read it, and it's it's the same, yeah, but my. Feeling was different. My feeling was on Ned, you're pushing it, pushing it, get your girls and go home. Why do you have to be like this, Ned? Yeah? What's that? Blind? Honor? Just not and he is I'm here to do a job. Oh no, just go home, Please just go home. Yeah, definitely, that's I remember thinking that for the last two episodes, just go home. I'm Bizarrely, when I did the read of the book, not so much with the show, something in me thought he might still go home. You know he doesn't. You know he doesn't. Absolutely no, he doesn't. But it's the power of Georgie's writing. You're so sucked in, you forgetting you. Know, I already know. For goodness, I have to say, maybe not in that particular moment, but I definitely got caught out like that a few times. Definitely, there's moments where I'm like, no, don't do that, and I'm like, you know, he does. You know he does? Just oh dear. So all of those means where worthy of a clip, yeah, but we can't do them all. So my favorite has to be Arrian's confessions. That as the standout scene, possibly one of the best from the whole season, is absolutely fantastic. Let us hear that you wish to confess your crimes, Yes, Milady, I do. Milady sky Cells always break speak in Meet Your Gods? Is an honest man? Where do I begin, my lords and ladies, I'm a vile man. I confess it. My crimes and sins are beyond counting. I have lied and cheated, gambled and hoared. I'm not particularly good at violence, but I'm good at convincing others to do violence for me. There's something in his voice right now that you know there's a punchline coming. When I was seven, I saw a servant girl bathing in the river. I stole her robe. She was forced to return to the castle naked and in tears. I closed my eyes, I could still see her tits bouncing. When I was ten, I stuffed my uncle's boots with goat ship. Confronted with my crime, I blamed a squire. Poor boy was flogged. I escaped justice. When I was twelve, I milked my heel into a I flagged the one i'd snaked, skinned my sausage. I made the bald man cry to the turtle stew, which I do believe my sister ate. At least I hated me. Did I once brought a jackass. I think that might be the best bet. See what happened next, because that's exactly why I was thinking. By far my favorite from the episode, and it was just a great Terryan moment. It's the gasps of the big and then it just turned in esthetics, Oh Catlin's face, She's just like. Catlin's rageing. But Lisa is just she's like so taken aback. She's she can't believe this is actually happening, and Cat's like I should have seen this coming. Yeah, you know that's the difference between them, that and Braun Bronze face. Yeah, bron is brilliant. He's just like, I like this, dude, I've just done it over the fact that he's Jerome Flynn. Oh dear, I still can't believe you didn't know that. I'll not put that together today. Wow. Was it was it today when we started this ebbit or did you just figure it out recently or was it really when I said this literally when you said it? Oh my god. Every day's a school day. Every day is a school day. I think I posted something on our Facebook page earlier, on our group chat maybe, and it's like young pictures of the whole cast. So for the young members of the cast, it's like school photos, yeah, But for the older members of the cast, it's from like when they're around twenty. So there's a really jerome picture of Jerome Flynn there, back from the soldier soldier days. I can see it now. Yeah, brilliant. So one other scene, actually, I just noticed as the kip clip was playing A one that I forgot to mention that was also on my list was the scene with Jora and Visseries when the series tried to steal Danny's eggs. We learned a little bit more about Jora in that, and you could see that Jorah's loyalty to Denaries was growing in strength. Yeah, absolutely great scene too. So there was one other really cool we scene that actually really loved in the episode, and it was right on the back of the Penny Drop, and that'said when Ned's going through the Boring Book and reading out the Barathians, they're there and for the first time, I don't think when I watched it, or watched it anytime while the show was still running, that I ever clicked onto this. But now because I've done a lot of reading on the lore, I actually can name every Brathian that he's talking about. I know who they are. So let's play that clip. Oris Bathian Black Affair. That's Ago and the Conqueror's half. Brother, Excellent Borathian Black of Hair. That's his son, Lionel Barassian Black Affair. That's the laughing Storm that we will meet and Duncan Egg Barassian Black Affair, and that's Robert and Stamacy's dad, Robert Baian Black Affair and we all know who that one is. That's awesome. Yeah, I just had a toll Nerd moment there that I had to share with you. Did you have any other notes? No, So in the book, Tyran's trial has a lot more dialogue and a lot more cunning. He's like Manipula and things a lot more. They just went leaned right into the humor of that scene, and I'm so glad they did because it was brilliant. Yeah. So Ned's confrontation with Cerces, like, I feel like it comes in in bits. It's different conversations, different things that he says to here in different scenes, And yeah, I think we get a lot more of like Ned doubting it. It's like in the show, it's like he didn't know and now he knows, whereas he goes back and forward a little bit. In the book, it's it's more a process of realization as opposed to a sudden light bulb moment. And finally, Visseres's death was absolutely spot on to the source material, but I think the book better captures like how desperate he is and how detached. Danny is. Although I do think Amelia Clark it very well the detachment, But again it's pov, isn't it. It's inner monologue you just get more. So that is one of those scenes that it was both better in the book and better on the screen because we got to visually see it on the screen. But the inner monologue made you connect with Danny's feelings or lack of them a lot more. Yeah, you're more with Drogo and Visari's in the visual scene. Yes, yes, you are, definitely, definitely but overall a fantastic adaptation. Yeah. Yeah. And our lower drops for this episode were the prophecy about the Stallion who mounts the world and the return of dragons is tied to an ancient Targarian prophecy. Cool. So the next episod so is number seven. You win or you Die. That absolutely iconic line when you play the Game of Thrones, you win or you die, delivered none other than Circe, which is kind of perfect. YEA love it. We've already heard that scene at the beginning of the episode. The synopsis is that Tim and Lanison is introduced skinning a stag while commanding Jamie to rally the West of Lands. I would just stop for a second and just say that that is the best character introduction. It was brilliant, fun fact Charles Dance learned how to skin that deer on the day. Oh nice, he showed up, Butcher showed him how to do it, etc. I went for it during film and brilliant, absolutely fantastic. So Ned confronts Circe about her illegitimate children. She confesses and defends her actions with her you win or you die speech. Robert is mortally wounded by a boar, and on his death bed he names Ned tiictor of the realm until Jeoffrey comes of age. Ned alters the document to read rightful Air instead. Little Finger promises Ned the support of the city Watch. Farris warns Ned of the Nemes's pregnancy. Ned sends a letter to Stanis. Circe tears up Robert's will, and when Ned tries to depose Geoffrey after Robert's death, little Finger betrays him and the city Watch turns on Ned's men. Ned is arrested for treason. It's quite a lot, quite an eventful episode, it is. It's a very eventful episode. Actually, Renley also offers Ned an army to take the kingdom before Robert's even dead. Yeah as well, and then flees. It's all about timing. Absolutely, that was the moment. If he took Renley up on his offer in that moment, yeah, that was his moment. And again Ned's blind honor exactly, your king's not dead yet. Renley made a lot of sense in that argument. Yep. It's actually one of those pivotal moments that it could have went the other way if only Ned's honor hadn't gotten the way. I think from the show, Like from a visual perspective watching the show, it makes it more plausible Ned being like, well no, because of his honor and Renley's the character comes across is not somebody that you're going to defy your honor for. And also he has an older brother and that's where Ned Drossy's Lyne it's like, well, actually not it's your brother. Yeah, your brother's next in line, No, you so, which is why he sends a letter to Status. But at the same time, it's like, we could have dealt with that later. Just what he needed was an army, and he needed one right there and then, and Renley was offering him one so, yeah, one of those pivotal moments in the story. So I know we're not doing story much, but I feel like that's one of those pivotal ones that needs a bit of discussion. So what were your favorite standout scenes from this one? Well, we've we've already discussed it, so it's just very briefly. It's the first time you meet Taiwan. Yes, loved Charles Dance as Taiwan, so that was fantastic. I have quite a few scenes that I liked. Obviously, you play the Game of Thrones, you whar you dry? Yeah, that's that's right up there. Robert's dying scene was great, and I also really liked the scene where Danny is almost poisoned. I also really loved that scene. I think, I mean, it plays out that's pretty much the same in the book, but I think it was acted really well. All the face acting, it was, you know, the suspense of the tension. It was a brilliant scene visually because of that. Loved that. But you mentioned Roberts. Roberts last words, we've got back clip. You'll rule now you hate it worse than I did, but you'll do it well. The girl. Denaris, you are right, various little finger, my brother worthless. No one has on me. No, but you, honor you, I suddenly realize in the valley, not a yes man. Stop it if it's not so late. I will my son help him bed, make him better than me. I'll I'll do everything I can to honor your memory. Memory. Very clever word in here from Ned. King Robert Barathian murdered by a pig. It's a funny thing to call his wife let me die. Oh dear, I'm sorry, I'm going to need a minute. I wasn't expecting that, Oh dear. Yeah, it's such a intense scene. It's like so like a complete turnaround. And Robert there he's and no one's ever going to know. No, no, it doesn't matter what Ned says. No one don't believe it anyway, No one wants to believe it. No, but poor Ned seems to think that this piece of paper is going to validate all of this stuff. Yeah, even Robert does too. Yeah, they think that this piece of paper against Ned knows things that Robert doesn't know. So Ned thinks that, Okay, I'm just gonna I'm going to give my friend the piece that he deserves passing on. I'm not going to upset him any further. He's yeah, he's moving on, but sadly that's not going to play out the way Ned thinks. No, it certainly isn't. So it's just after this he comes out talks to Renley, and you know, because Ned's so sure that this bit of paper is going to protect and that's another reason why he says no. Yeah, it's a great scene. Good choice, good choice. Any other thoughts on it? Nah, we're just fab So my favorite scenes from the episode again are the ones you've mentioned. They were absolutely great. We've got the vows, the Night's Watch vows. Kind of love that. See, Yeah, it's it's it's very spirit and it's like a little teaser into the mysteries of these old gods and the children of the forests, and of course the wearwood trees. So in the book there's it's actually a grove of nine werewood trees in a circle, as opposed to just the one tree that we see. But budgets and all that, so they just went for the one tree in this scene. But I loved it. It was really great. My favorite scene, however, that I wanted to clip was actually with Ausha and theon. It's really cool. There's like we get a lot of insight into the gray Joys and stuff, but then we also get that wildline perspective of how stupid all this is lords and ladies in hierarchy and this one and that one and why do I have to call you that? You're just a dude, You're a bit of an arts actually a way to have the respect you. So yeah, really love and this scene. So yeah, that's one I'm going to play. Where's it to come from? The Iron Islands? They're far away. You've never heard of the Iron Islands? Trust me, You've never heard I'm from neither. Trust me. My lord, you're not living in the wilderness anymore, and civilized lands. You refer to your betters by their proper titles. And what's that? Why? Why? What do you mean? Why? My father is Baylong gray Joy, Lord of the Iron Islands. What's that got to do with you? Your father's lord? How can you be lord too? I will be lord after my father. You're not lord now? Oh she's gone spinning and circle with me. Yes, I just don't understand how you Southerners do things. I'm not a Southerner. You're from south of the wall. That makes you a Southerner. To me, you're an impudent little wench, aren't. You couldn't say, my lord, I don't know what impudent means. It means rude, disrespectful. Do you want to lose that chain? Yeah, I'm great joy. The lady as our. Guest thought, she was our prisoner either too mutually exclusive and your experience. I had to let miss their learn have his moment there at the end of that scene, because yeah, that's that's totally effort the only just so abovey station. Yeah, at this point, it's like, remember why you're here, pal? Oh dear? Yes, So I absolutely love that saying it's really cool a wee bit insight into the Ironborn there as well, who I actually think, by far are one of the most interesting cultures that George has written. I think they're so cool. They're just like you know, the Viking and the mythology that's all woven into their backstory. It's yeah, definitely they and I think he had the most fun with it, and he's certainly gone way more in depth with their backstory than a lot of others. I think it seems to me that he enjoyed writing about them, and so therefore I enjoy reading about it because it comes across. So do we have any other thoughts on episode seven before we move along? I think before we move on, it's relevant to just kind of mention the the Drogo scene. It's all in the thracky, so no point in clipping it, Yeah, but a mention of it. Oh. Absolutely. We did discuss this when we were planning this episode, and that was it. It was if we could have clipped that scene, and it makes sense that would have been the one because it was so powerful. Wasn't it fabulous? He's so Jason is brilliant. It's a Danny chapter, so it's more Danny's povy in her head. Yeah. So Jason Watts acted it really well. It's a fantastic scene. It is. Powerful. He felt his passion and he's loved for her, and he's outraged that anyone would dare hurt his Calisi and it's like, you know what, we don't cross the narrow say, but now I'm gonna I'm going to tear down their stonehousays. And I love those lines. They're just so great. I should have transcribed it anyway, when may we do that in the book half in part two? But anyway, fab scene worth a mention. I think that's this thing. So differences from the book that we haven't mentioned would be Taiwand's introduction. Skinning the Stag was obviously a show only invention. If you've got two characters in a scene that aren't POV characters from the book, then Dan and Dave wrote it, or whoever is the writer for that episode. So in the book and Ned plans really carefully and he has a lot of turmoil over confronting Cerce before he does it, there's a lot more build up to that, whereas what we got was the end of the last episode Ned reading the book and coming to that realization, and then right at the beginning of the next episode he's confronting Cerce. So we didn't get that build up and his turmoil, his fear of the implications and what if he's wrong, and all of that before going through it. So that's a small difference. Little Fingers betrayal is much more heavily foreshadowed. We see it coming, whereas in the show, I think it came across as a surprise. Yeah, but in the book were like, Okay, you're up to something. I don't trust him, Ned, don't trust him. Then see told you so, and then he says, I did tell you not to trust me. Yeah. I think for the sake of the show, it had to be. You need a shocker, don't you. If it's dead predictable, then it was a good. Ending to an episode. It was very good ending to an episode. So the lower drops for this episode were that Western Rossi's great houses were shaped by ancient wars, blood feuds, and alliances, and Varius implies the existence of darker, older forces in the world behind the scenes, but he doesn't say what just hence it's some mystery. So episode eight is called The Pointy End Indeed, directed by Daniel Monahan and written by none other than George R. R. Martin, Oh Lovely. George wrote one episode per season for the first four seasons, and this is the George episode. The scene with Tyrian and Braun coming down from the mountains was actually supposed to be in episode seven, so that was actually written by Dan and Dave, but George wrote the rest of the episode. So the synopsis for this is after a Nege arrest the Stark household in Kingsland and is attacked. Aria escapes and begins life on the run. Sansa begs for her father's life. Rob Stark calls his banners and heads south with his army catl and joins him. John kills a white that reanimates at Castle Black, proving the threat of the undead mast of the Raymond reveals that he's a Targetarian Trogo is challenged by one of his blood Riders and his wounded in the fight. So what did we think of this episode? There's a lot in this episode again, yes, definitely, and there starts to be some major discrepancies in my imagination and in some of the description that's made visual I think. Okay, So first of all, John kills. The white at Castle Black. Yes, I didn't think that was as good visually as it was in my mind right. So reading it was more suspenseful it was. I didn't think the special effects of the whole scene were that great, No. And I don't think the zombie acting was very good either. However, Ghosts partner it was great. Yeah, Ghost was amazing. Ghost was amazing. Respect to the dire Wolfs. Yeah, absolutely respect to the dog handlers and trainers on set. Yeah, really good acting, but special effects were I felt they were a bit lacking. But then bearing in mind, this is fifteen years old by now, so yes. That's it gets a pass. I would like to actually raise a point to that. When going back the first time to rewatch these very first episodes, I did feel it was like, oh my god, I think this is starting to get dated. Yeah, just like by the time I was a couple of episodes in, i'd forgotten all about it. But those first few episodes, for sure, I was thinking, oh my god, it is starting to feel dated now. It doesn't feel that long ago in my life that I watched this. I think because we've been so used to the House of the Dragon. Special effect is. Yeah, they've definitely up their game there, definitely. The other one that I thought was a bit me was the Drogo one, and it was only because it was changed for the episode. It wasn't meant it wasn't a duel. He had actually been away fighting and he comes back when Danny sees him and his nipples meant to be hanging off. Yes, it's not just a little cut. So again it's just it's just special effects. It's really minor. I had no problem with it first time round fifteen years ago, but this time, after reading the book and where we are special effects, I thought, oh, that's that's a bit naff. Okay, I have there accessing an open tab in the back of my brain here God processing, loading, loading. But I think I read something recently that said that Jason Momoa asked for this, he wanted, he wanted this fight scene, and he deserves it. He does the fight stunt work so wonderfully. The way he moves is so cool. Absolutely, I'm flashing back to see again here we stand with baba Oz. He does fight choreography really really well, and I think it was really great that he got a chance to do that one on one jail thing and it saved them on the budget of doing a battle. Yeah, it's just a prosthetic though. The nipple hanging off, you know, it is They could have done that. You could have done that. And I think because the the wound is supposed to be something that she feels she has to ask this woman to fix it, not in this episode. I don't think it is. But no, it's not. It's a serious wound. Oh no, it is, because right as it happens, that's when Marie Masdour offers to help. She's like, I can address his wound. She was a witness to the fight. So yeah, it was. Episode Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just thought a little cut, if you're going to be real about a little cut like that, I don't think the infection would have that kind of infection would have happened. Danny would have felt she had to. Ask for this, this healer woman to do if but. The original moment in which it happened, this was a fresh wound. If it was cleaned immediately and kept clean, it wouldn't have got infected in that way. So what are we supposed to believe from that that Mary Masdour has somehow poisoned the wound. Maybe maybe I think that's maybe what we're supposed to believe, because I don't think a natural infection would kick in if it's immediately cleaned right after. And I would have absolutely believed that until I read the book and thought, oh no, that kind of wound yeah fits. More with the story, Yeah, definitely. And Danny's reaction, Well, it's not the only time in this series that were a cut, were actually a sever But yeah, so what were your favorite scenes? So my favorite scene is Varus having his chat with ned. Oh. Yes, it's one of my favorites too. Let's listen and listen. You watch my men being exhausted and did nothing. And what again? I was unarmed, unarmed and surrounded by lands to swords. When you look at me, do you see a hero? No? No, I don't. What madness led you to tell the queen you had learned the truth about Geoffrey's bath? And he says that like they all knew. The madness of mercy. She might say, her children, Ah, the children, it's always the in since his suffer. It wasn't the wine that killed Robert, nor the ball. The wine slowed him down and the ball ripped him open, but it was your mercy. That killed the king. True story. I trust you know you're a dead man, Lord headed. Oh certainly cares exactly. Don't hold back. We can't kill me. I never took you for a naive, No wrong, brother sadly and lost to her. Your wife has let the imp slip through her fingers, And that's true. Then he goes dony Thane and slip. My throat and be done with it. Not today, my lord? Tell me something, Barris. Oh, do you truly serve the realm? My lord? Someone must. Ah? Did you pick this clip just to make me go off on a bloody theory tangent? No, but please do indulge, o dear. He serves the realm. He serves the realm. What does he mean by this? I mean there are many who would say that he means that he's playing chess and his end game is to put a blackfire on the throne. Oh, there's so much evidence for this. We will talk about it more as the story progresses and the evidence presents itself. But here we are. When I think about Varus and his intentions, I always come back to this scene, in this line the realm. Oh. I would love to know his true intentions. I mean, he has some conspiracy going with Allrio. We know that at this point we've seen them lurking in the shadows with a Lario whispering and inspiring and filling him in and the goings on in King's Land And why is Alario interested in the goings on in King's landing? There's something there and we never ever got to find out what it was as far as the book is concerned, because we didn't George isn't there yet In the TV show, they just deviated from this storyline so much that it kind of fell flat. But there was something there. So Alario's the guy that Danny and Visas were living with. Yes, that's right. Yeah, so yeah, that's a major unlikely alliance. Yeah, what is that all about? It's something to watch certainly when reading the books. Let's pay attention to what's going on with Varus going forward, because George was building to something and Dan and Dave missed it completely. There was a flag there, guys. Yes, So what were your thoughts on this scene? It's just one of those really cool moments where we get to see Varus being Varus being completely honest in the moment with what he says it. We both know you're going to die. That's it. Your numbers are And I don't think that was part of his plan, no, but it is what it is, and I can't help you. He just lets people do what they're going to do and gets as much information out of a. Situation as he can. Yeah, but it's one of those moments where he's not giving anything away, But he's given away more than we've seen so far. Yes, that he knew, he knew about the children's illegitimate saying, and he should never have trusted Little Finger, and that Ned's own honor was part of the problem, a huge part of the problem. He's very clever. It's Varius and I want to know his long game, I really do. But we'll pay attention to that going forward. Still, what's next? Oh? My favorite scene, so, my favorite scene from this episode, absolutely without a shadow of doubt, is Aria and Ceriophrell when she's first summoned before the Queen love that I'm gonna let them do it. I'm not gonna explain it. Aria Stark, come with us. Your father wants to see you. And why is it that Lord Edard descending lanister men in place of his own? I am wondering, Mind your place, dancing Master, This is no concern of yours. My father wouldn't send. You, No, he would not. And I don't have to go with you if I don't want ha ha ha. Take her? Are you men or snakes that you would threadn a child? Get out of my way, little man. I I'm serio for it, and Bostard. And you will be speaking to me with more respect. Bring the girl, harry a child. We are done with dancing. For the day. Run to your father. He is kicking ass here. Whether wooden sword, I might add. Big God na aria. Run. The first sword of Brathers does not run. Oh what do we say to the god of death? Not today? So sad? I know. I love this scene so much. He is fantastic, And that's that thing that George does. He writes this absolutely brilliant character and then kills him off. Yeah. I think he's the first one. He's the first one. You're like, no, no, I don't want him to die. I like him definitely. No. I love the scene and you get to see that, you know mer Trant as well. It's just like, oh, this guy is not honorable. He is an absolute dick, and I mean there's worse to come, but this is the first hint that he's you know, CEO's right, he's a snake. Yeah, definitely. He enjoys the violence that he's asked to inflict. Definitely. He's not a good man. And the hound calls him later Merion fucking Tran. Every time I see him in something, something else, I go MERI and fucking Tran. I can't help it. It's the worst thing that bobs into my head when it's his face. Have you actually ever seen him in an interview? Oh my god, he's so funny. He's such a nice guy. He really is. He's Irish and he's just got that typical Irish banter. He's hilarious. He's so nice. So nothing at all like his character. Definitely he plays bad so well. So oh, one more thing. Aria's first kill is in this episode. Yes, it's when she kills the stable boy. And yeah, that was quite important for her character, something that stood out to me, of course, pointing end. Yeah, So, how did you feel about this episode in the right inside? Did you feel George in it? Yes? With the Varus scene, yeah, very much. Yeah, and I like that it was George that did that. That's what tells me there's something more important in varis that. Funnily enough, the biggest little tease we get of it is in an episode that George wrote. Yeah, definitely onto something there. So yeah, some fun facts about George writing this episode. So Martin delivered the first draft of the script to the show's producers Dan and Dave, admitting that it was probably too long and too expensive. In fact, one. Scene that Martin wrote Rob start calling his father's northern banner Man with a montage of eight different castle receiving a summons and writing out, was deemed impossible to film fair enough. Also, this episode was dedicated to the memory of Ralph Vicinaza. He was one of the co executive producers attached to Game of Throws, and died in his sleep from a cerebral aneurysm on September twenty fifth, twenty ten. He was instrumental in bringing Martin's work to the screen, recommending the books to Dan and Dave, and leading the negotiations with HBO. He died a few days after HBO greenlighted the series. Oh that's really sad. It is so nice that you've got a dedication there. Absolutely so anything else to add about the episode? Sansa's letters, Oh yeah. Sirt awful personality which was gathered. Yeah, well, yeah, felt really sorry for Sansa. Yeah, definitely, she. Really felt that if she absolutely didn't want to write them. No, but she felt what choice does she have? Yeah, maybe it'll maybe it'll change things, Maybe the Queen will do what she said she's going to do. Maybe Geoffrey does love her. All these maybes and she's just a little girl. Such a shame. I yeah, a lot of people are really hard on Santa for her naivy a. I just think they need to remember how young she is. She's not naive. She's young, and the naivety that he's seeing her is the naivety a of youth. And maybe she's a bit of a dreamer. And that's okay, It is okay, it's not okay in the Game of Thrones. But but that's you know, she wasn't raised thinking she was going to be playing that game. Our parents weren't thinking she was exactly. So yeah, it's quite quite a sad scene. Worth a mention. Anything that's from you, we won't likely to say anything else. At the same time, no, I think that's it. So lower drops. In this episode, the undead reappear, confirming ancient stories of dangers beyond the wall. So yes, moving on to the next episode. So episode nine is called Baylor Who. It was directed by Alan Taylor Wheel of Alan Taylor, We Do and written by Dan and Dave. It's my favorite episode title. Yes me too. You're not really sure why it's called Baylor until the very end, but yeah, I think it's brilliantly titled. So the synopsis for this episode is that Varis urges Ned to confess. Catlin negotiates with Walder Free to allow Rob's army to cross the Twins. Rob captures Jamie Lanister. John learns that Rob is marching south and considers dessert ting Mason Raymond is revealed to be a Targarian. Denari seeks magical help to save Drogo, who is dying from an infected wound. Mary Masdur performs a blood magic ritual. Drogo's horses sacrificed and Denari's is forced away. Ned confesses to trees into save sansor an area. Geoffrey orders Ned executed anyway. Aria watches her father die and is shielded by Urine of the Night's Watch. Oh what an episode. This is the one. This is the one where you you realize there's no plot armor in this story. We all thought that Sean Bean had plot armor, right, there was no way he's going to die. He's going to confess and he's gonna I. Love now that it's full circle, right, and that if Sean Bean's in it, you know he's going to die. Yeah, but yeah, plot armor is you go into these shows and you think that the main characters have plot armor, and this is the first time we realize they don't. You had said for you the Golden Crown episode the one that made you go, I'm invested, I am watching this, I put my phone down. That is that it was this episode for me, right, because at no point did I think they were genuinely going. To execute me. Neither. I didn't think that was going to happen. And then it wasn't until his head was off that was like, oh, I'm invested. Yeah, I need to know what happens to these girls now. Yes, exactly. And like you said about the Golden Crown episode, for me, it was that I had that feeling then, but then he even got more amplified this episode that it was just such a shock. Wait. Wait, we thought there's no way they're going to get He's the main character, in the lead. He's not going to die. He's the one with the morals and integrity. That's not how a story works. No, the good guys win, definitely. I mean, we got this little bit with cereal for l and it was like, oh, we. Love this character. Oh he's gone, but he wasn't a main character. That was the main character, and he's just gone a shot. And this is about Georgie's right, And it's not about the show. It's not about anything. But for me, because I saw this season before I read anything, this was just, oh, my god, it's going to be that kind of story before we move on. Then that was actually my favorite scene. So let's just hear it now. Oh brilliant. Hi, I'm an odd stock, Lord of winter Fell and hand of the King. Oh the silence is death man. I come before you to confess my treason. In the sight of gods and men. I betrayed the faith of my king and the trust of my friend Robin. I swore to protect and defend his children, but before his blood was cold, I plotted to murder his son. And seize the throne for myself. Let the high sectain and bearl oer the blessed bear witness to what I say. Geoffrey Barrathian is the one true heir to the Iron Throne, by the grace of all the gods, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and. Protector of the realm. As we sin, so do we suffer? This man has contested his crimes insight from God's and men. The gods are just, but beloved below tortoise, they can also be merciful. What is to be done with this traitor? My mother wishes me to let Lord Edard join the Knight's Watch. Stripped of all titles and powers, you would serve the realm in permanent exam. And my lady Sanza has begged mercy for her father, but they. Have the soft hearts of women. Are you be shaped? As long as I am your king, treason shall never go unpunished, Sir Ellen, bring me his head. No, Sir Ellen, don't don't dare. Don't dare, and with his own fucking sorry to Oh, I was just drawn in there. I had no banner or comment. I'm just I felt it all over again. What we don't see from the audio is Aria at the statue of Baylor, witnessing it all exactly and Sansa hoping he's just gonna get sent to the wall. It's going to be fine. The shock on her face and she just her niece just give out. Yeah, she's just the face acting from both those kids. It was fantastic. It was brilliant. They played it so well. And I love the little moment with Uran. I love the you know, Ned sees him, he sees Aria, then sees him, and then like Baylor, yeah, Baylor, get her, Please help my kids. And that comes back to this previous scene where Urine had come to tell him about Catlin and he said, your your brother's blood runs black as mine does, which makes you family to something. I'm paraphrasing, but that that was the essence it was, And so he knew you could trust them. I don't think there was anyone else in that crowd that he thought you could trust for a second. But he saw him and it was like, oh right, there's somebody. There's someone that can save my mind. At this point, Ned had no idea where she was. No she'd been missing for days, a week even maybe. Yeah, So that was my favorite scene. What was yours? So my favorite scene was a bit more obscure than the main body of the episode. Right, It was a game of never have I ever? Oh yeah, And it's Terry and Brawn and say that playing this game. It's great. The way it was written in to episode nine, because actually we find this story out much earlier in the book. Yeah, and this isn't how we find out No, So this game, it gives you a bit of backstory. Enteritrian and a cruel joke that was played on him and. His relationship with his father as well and his relationship with Jamie. Yeah, that was a really interesting scene. So let us listen to the clip. Let's do that. Let's play a new game. Is a Bravosi knife game? I could teach you? Does it involve the potential for losing fingers? Not if you win? No fire games, no knife games. Let's do something I'm good at. What are you good at? I happen to be a great judge of character? It sounds like a boring game. It's not I make a statement about your past. If I'm right, you drink. If I'm wrong, I drink, and no lying. I'll know if you're lying. I don't want to play this game. Fine, bron Fast. Your father beats you. Drank, but my mother hit harder. You killed your first man before you were twelve. He was a woman. He's gonna answer for and everything she's wronging. Actually, you've been North of the wall, drank what brought you up there? Work? And he once loved a woman many years ago but it turned out badly, so you've never let yourself love again. Oh wait, that's me. And then he tells his story and then he asks say some questions and he gets them all wrong. Yes, he does a very long seems does he. Right? Man? She just doesn't want to play the game. Who knows? But great scene. The other great part of the scene is it's a really serious episode and it's a bit of humor popped in there. It is. It's the comic relief of the episode, doesn't it. Thank you Jerome Flynn. Definitely, he was brilliant. It's so funny, totally answer for everything. So back to the serious stuff. Oh, there's lots of it. Yeah, I think that in this episode. You can tell that Alan Taylor is a part of this episode. Oh, definitely. The special effects have come up in the world. Yeah, I mean, there's there is some stuff in this episode that, like I wish Alan Taylor had been given the opportunity to do. I mean, there's a whole battle missing from this episode. There is why not said the battle scene was dogshit? Yes, but that's what sounds about right. Yeah. I really enjoyed the scenes with Catlin and Walter Free. Oh he's so creepy. What's his name? He's the Janny from Harry Potter. Yes, he is, but I'm trying to remember his name. He's actually a great actor, Janny. His name is David Bradley. That's it. He was also a doctor who. What was he? Yeah, well I didn't know that. Yeah, but he is. He's really good. I mean he's awful, but he's really he's great in the role. It suited him very well. His doctor Who thing was he was the doctor He was the voice of the doctor in a twenty seventeen podcast. Or was he the first the first doctor Adventures? Very cool, We have to check that out. Yeah. I just wanted to mention about that missing battle scene. We'll talk about that more when we get to the book part. So definitely the scenes were wald Are Free. It was really good. It was really tense. I love the part where Kathleen comes back and gives Robbie's choices. He's like, you have to marry one of his doors. It's like, we're any kind of good looking. Well one was all right, I suppose again a little bit of humor in a very dark episode, and of course the battle with Jamie. From Rob's perspective, the strategy that went into this, it does not come across in the show at all. No, Rob really showed his prowess as a battle strategist in this part of the story, and that does not come across as well on the TV. You just got they went in a battle, all they won. They've got Jamie Lanister. Great. Yeah, but like Rob's plan and the way they got Jamie. But I'm gonna I think we might have a wee breakdown of the strategy when we get to the book part of this episode. One other thing that I wanted to mention from this episode was the Master Raymond thing. The lineage was slightly wrong. He said that his father was Maker and his brother became king after that, and then his son was Aries. That's not actually correct. There was a Jaharis, the second in front in between Aries was actually Eggs grandson, not son. But so there's a slight discrepancy in the dialogue there. I'm not sure if that's a mistake on Dan and Dave's part, or if that's something that maybe George hadn't completely worked out yet at this point and writing the book. That's where it goes down as one of my favorite scenes. Actually, one of those when you saw it for the first time you were like, what the fuck? It was cooler seeing it on our rewatch. Yeah, yeah, definitely, now you know what you know about the House of the Dragon before he was thrown exactly. Yeah. I love the way he delivers it though, he's like, well, my vows were tested. I was already an old man, and then started talking about it. And they killed the babes first in John's face. The face acting from Kit and this scene is actually really good. Yeah, the gormless is gone, but yeah, he's actually got a brain. He's like piecing it all together like a little jigsap us. A very good scene. Love it, great review. So that was the last of my notes. Did you have any other standout moments from this episode? Yeah? Two actually or left in my notes. So getting to meet long Claw was awesome. Yes, and it's quite cool that we have met most of the Blades in the first season. Most of the main ones in the story. Yeah, at this point we've got Ice, the Catspaw, Dagger, and now long Claw. Yeah, that's that's three Valerian steel blades. I mean there's more to come out later. Yeah, it's cool that we at this point don't know the importance and history of these blades. Yeah, but they are in the story. Yes, so when it's a rewatch, getting to see these blades are like little easter eggs. They're for a fan. Yeah, they're really really cool. Absolutely so going to go all lower on you is now Long Claw being the ancestral blade of House Mormont of Bear Island, and they've had it in their possession for six hundred years. It's pretty cool. So long before the Doom of Valaria, long before Eggon's conquest Ice ned so is only four hundred years that has been in house start, although they have carried blades called ice for a lot longer. And Cat's Pop the Cat's pot Dagger, we don't know anything about at this point in the story. In fact, most of what we learn about the cat'spowd Dagger came from House to the Dragon. Yeah, it's not even in Fire and Blood. It's cool that it's there, Yes, it's lovely. It's the first time that we've seen this blade. And what was cool was when House the Dragon gave you that all this extra backstory on it, which is it makes. Me wonder if that was something that was adapted along the way. Is this another one of Georgie's things that it was an important blade in the show in the book initially. Yeah, and it's now got its own whole story, which is really cool. Yes. I like to believe. If anybody knows otherwise, please let us know. But for me, the way it presents is that George was heavily involved with Ryan at the beginning of House of the Dragon and this massive lower reveal. I feel like George would have been consulted on. It would have been something they talked about, I would think, so. Yeah, it was revealed very early on in House that episode three something like that. Yeah, So I think it's something that Ryan and George talked out before it happened, and I'd like to believe that it's all true. We know that the part about Eggon having a dream that came into House of the Dragon was something that George had said. In fact, it's actually a really funny story. What actually happened there is that George just randomly started saying in an interview. It's like some people say that egg on the Conqueror was a dreamer and had dreamed about the Long Night long before it happened, and people were like, no, actually, George, I've never heard that theory. They kill that you dropped it in there. And finally enough, this was just before The House of the Dragon come out. So yeah, cool, a lot of fun. Fact. So my last one was, I want to see a Danny chapter, not a Danny chapter, because we're not talking about the book. We're talking about Danny scene Jacey peeps. So yeah, Drogo is very unwell and we have all. This crazy spirits in the tent and killing the horse, which is just such a big no. No, this is this is not done, not in althracy culture. No, And everyone's very much oh, don't do that, dude, that's not kill you lady from over the sea. You don't know what you're doing. We're going to leg it and leave you. Yeah, excuse my paraphrasing, but yeah, that's the general gist. It's not okay with the douthor acky what's going on at the moment. But Danny is desperate. They're not cool with the blood magic, and they are not cool with the horse sacrifice. They're not but the special horses are sacred. I really like the special effects in that particular scene with the creepy tent. And the audio effects, they were absolutely outstanding. As a student sound I loved these. It was just I went right through you. These screams. You almost felt like they were in the room with you, like the spirits were swirling about your own head as it reads in the book. Props to the sound department. Yep. And for that episode, absolutely brilliant or for that scene particularly, well, she got that's it. So that's us for episode nine onto the final episode, Episode ten, of course, is titled Fire and Blood. I do love that. Yeah, it's very cool. Also directed by Alan Taylor. Definitely felt his presence. More than this, he was felt his presence from the opening. Yes, definitely. It was very very well directed. So the synopsis for this episode was the Star Children react to Ned's death. Rob weeps, Sansa is horrified, and Aria escapes disguised as a boy with Gendri, Hoteye Urine and the others. Rob's army proclaims him the King in the North Titerry in his named Hand of the King and sent to King's landing. It says, with Shee here, he's not sent with Shee. You know he is not. He goes with Shee. Nonetheless, Catlin demands answers from Jamie, who remains unrepentant, and John nearly deserts the Knight's Watch, but is talked down by Sam and the others. The Knight's Watch prepares to ride beyond the wall. Drogo has left catatonic from the ritual. Jenneri smothers him and burns his body. She walks into his pire with her dragon eggs and emerges unharmed with three baby dragons, reborn as the Mother of Dragons. Love it, Love it so much? What were your standout scenes? So favorite scenes of the episode were. It's Cat and Jamie's talk that they have and Jamie is Jamie. Well, yes, my synopsis says unrepentance, but I was going to say such a cunt. But yes, that's better. It's a great scene. They've both acted it really well. And although she is a POV character, this isn't a conversation from the book. No, it's not, and it's really great. There's also a Cat and Rob scene which is really moving when. He's hiking the tree. Yeah, and she's just she just comforts her son. And if we're going by, well, I know we're discussing the show, but I keep going back to he's only fifteen and this is his mum, and he's just won a battle and captured a Lanister, Jamie. Lanister, the kings Layer. But his dad just died and he's devastated and he's the moment of being a man. It did, and his mom just she doesn't want to She doesn't want to cry in front of the men, but she also doesn't want to comfort her son in front of them either, because it's their own private family moment and she has to retain his his prowess in order to make sure that these guys don't lose their their will to have battle. Yes, definitely, that is a fantastic scene. It is a really great scene. What were your favorites? Oh, I had a few, and I wanted to clip them all. I wish I could. Thankfully you picked one of mine for your clips, so that's great. We'll get to that. But the one, the one scene that is not clip that I really wish was was The King of the North. It's just so move and it's so great. Yeah, it was really cool. He needed to hear it. He did. The other scene that I really liked was when Aria meets hot Pie and Gendre. Brilliant, Yeah, really cool. I love the way Gendri just steps up and on our you know, picking on the little ones, are you. I love that She's like, I've killed a fat boy. I like killing fat boy. Yes, it was such a cool scene. If only we could clip them all, but I have opted for an extra one for this one. But just because like discussion can't do it justice, we have to hear it. Absolutely, this is the song. I have no other words. Let's just hear it. And this is something that you just can't do in a book. No bos great tasks. I bound it ill. For good King Robert's health and the base was every bit as fact as Robert was himself. King, do your worst, I'll have. Your rugby head now. When he was murderous as. The lion in my. Lost this battleland, he fildest final test, the. Lion ripish. Lovely, give it its all, the sarcastic clapping. It's so good, it's utterly brilliant, and it's just it's it's a scene that can't be portrayed in the medium of a book. It's exclusive to TV to be able to make you laugh like that a scene like it's just so brilliant. So I deserved a mention because we're talking about the TV show and this is something the TV show did. Great. Yes, love it. So what about yourself? Any other scenes stood out other than the clip you've picked. I did really like the scene in the crypt with shaggy Dog. Oh yeah, I've completely forgotten about that scene because it's not in my notes, but yeah, it's a great scene. It is really good, so creepy and weird, kind of lurish. Ye had the same dream that Ned's come to them. I think the in the making of it. Again, back to the dog handlers. You're working with really little kids and you're working with a dog, a big dog who has to act vicious within the scene. So you've got to keep these kids safe. The dog has to do its job. You have to then calm the dog back down. Yeah, like, never work with children animals. So fantastic. Well done to the dog handlers. Well done to the actors. Yes, really really good. The true the people that are there, you just oversea. I hope the dog got lots of tree toos for being very very good. I think he probably did a we flirt pole definitely. The other scene for me, lastly in my notes is the opening scene. So it's not a dialogue based one. It is the hair and blood that is on the sword that cuts Ned's head off. So this is a scene and I thought visually it was absolutely fantastic. It was very emotive, it was and it was minging. It was great, proper gross, not. Just the sword with a bit blood, there was hair. Oh yeah, fantastic. I love that. Excellent. That's a wee bit of the props makeup department working together there. Yeah, very good. Yeah, loved all of those. Absolutely. The episode is just littered with gold. Every scene is gold. I would say in this episode every line of dialogue was so well and well directed as well. Was it Dan and d Yeah it was Danny Dave. I don't know if I said that at the beginning. I think we just went off on Alan Taylor and I didn't mention Dan and Dave. So yeah, this was a Dan and Dave episode, and I think it was brilliantly written. The lots of great scenes. Every line of dialogue was utter Gold. They were dropping as much teasers in there to keep you hooked for next season as they possibly could, and they did it absolutely brilliantly. And of course this is just where George was written, a fantastic story that's coming to a climax of you know, book one here and yeah, it was great, this is it. I was super fan by this point. But again, though so much drama in this episode. Yeah, they're still humor always always. So we. A favorite clip that we have now we both agreed on, yes, rather than it being just me that's picked this, there's little Finger in Baris. We were mutually agreed that this is absolutely fantastic dialogue. It's great. And again this is the second one had the little Finger and Baris, and I thought they were both brilliant, but this is my favorite of the two. And again because they're not POV, it's not in the book, but we get this insight and these characters and it's such a clever, funny way. So yeah, let's play it. When you imagine yourself up there, how do you look? Does the crown fit to all the lords and ladies? Simper and bow, the ones who sneered at you for years it's. Hard for them to simper and bow with out heads. Man with great ambition and no morals. I wouldn't bet against you. And what would you do, my friend, if you found yourself sitting up there? I must be one of the few men in this city who doesn't want to be king. You must be one of the few men in the city who isn't a man You can do better than that. That's what I was thinking when they castrated you. If they take the pillow at the stars, I've always wondered, have you do you spend a lot of time wondering? What's between my legs? A gash like a woman's? Is that about right? I am flattered, of course, to be pictured at all. It must be. Strange for you, even after all these years, a man from another land, despised by most, feared by all, am. I that is good to know. Do you lie awake at night fearing my gash? Whispering in one king's ear? And then next? I admire you, and I admire Lord Bailish. A grasper from a minor house with a major talent for befriending powerful men and women. Are useful talent. I'm sure you'd agree. So here we stand in mutual admiration and respect. Playing our roles, serving a new king. Long may he reign, My King, My King, My lords, Shall we begin? Absolutely? That is so good. I think badness won that one. Absolutely. Do you spend a lot of time alone? Picture in my gosh, it's. Really only something that I can't imagine ever saying that to another human being. Yeah, everything's gone as ship and they make us laugh so hard. I loved it, such a good scene. Any others before we do the other clip? No, do you have any others? No? I think we've We've talked about all the ones that I've written notes on. I mean, like I said, everything is great. Everything was that? Do you know what? Actually, just one that I've just thought of just now was when Terry and arrives at King's landing. Yeah, the small council and he's just like, what the fuck is this shit show? You're all a bunch of twice So yeah, I really love that scene too. But the other standout scene, again we both discussed it this it had to be done, was the moment wharing Sam's buddies go, no, mate, you're one of us now. It's so lovely, it's great. Let's hear it. We're taking you back to where you belong. I belong with my brother Where are your brothers? Now? They'll kill you if they find out you've gone. They'll kill you if they know you came after me. Go back. Sam told us everything but sorry about your father. But it doesn't matter. You took the oath. You can't leave. You can't. You said the words, I don't care all my words, and bear witness to my vow to hell with all of. You like Gavis. And then my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I should live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness, the watcher on the walls, guards the realms of men. I pledge my life. And adding this thing again for this night and all nights to come. And it's ramming jo Addie. When he brings the music in, that's when the goosebumps start. Yeah, every time. He's so clever. Didn't do it right at the beginning of the speech, No, no, he waited. I think it's not just one voice, two voices, music, third voice, and then yeah, he built it to a crescendo. Yeah, he's so clever, very very good at what he does, and yeah, I love that scene. It's so moving. So yeah, that was definitely one of my favorites. So I guess that brings us to our dragon section. It does. Ah, so good to hear those dragon sounds again. Yay yy. So Dandy's hatching the dragons scene, Drogo's funeral pier. It was fucking awesome. It's really really good, really good. The whole thing was awesome. It was absolutely amazing. And while I will say that the book scene was better, this was still brilliant. It was really really, so good. And when we get to part two, I'll explain why I feel like the book scene was better, But for this, I just want to talk about how cool this was. Visually. In the words of little Nikky, it's freaking awesome. That is the one. So what were your thoughts? Everything about it was so cool. She was so determined, Yeah, so determined. Great acting, yep, everything about it was awesome. Oh my god. The tying her to the pire, the walking into the funeral pire, yep. Just she was so confident that she wasn't going to die and nobody else could see that. No, no, it's like, don't do it. It's like he could see, I know what you're going to do. You're going to sacrifice yourself, and she knew. I'm not sacrificing myself there. This woman has told me. Yeah, there's some what was. It the only death can pay for life? Yeah, so Danny knew. Danny knew somewhere, and it was heavily foreshadowed throughout the season with the hot bath, the holding the dragon eggs, fire Carol killer Dragon, and then only death can pay for life. Yeah. So there's a there's a bit of a question there as in like like who the sacrifices were. Obviously Drogo, obviously Mary Masdur. Yeah, but the third one, some people say it was reg yeah, and others say it was the horse because the horse was on the pier too. Yeah, so I think that it was maybe the horse because Rego had already paid for Drogo's life. Yeah, but yeah, that's it, the three sacrifices, three eggs hatched. Danny just knew. She knew something in her bones, sitting then old and ancient and Valerian and things that other Targanians had been trying to do for centuries, well not for centuries at this. Actually that's the thing I read was that at this point, George says, the very last line of the book is that for the first time in centuries, the world was alive with the music of dragons, which was very tokien. It is very token, but he said centuries in this very first book. But we later find out that it was like one hundred and forty years since the dragons. Dragons had died out. So but again, this is George just working out his ship as he's moving forward. He's a gardener. He plants the seeds, he lets them grow, and he's like, actually, we can narrow that down now. But yeah, it was just I was so cool, so cool. I love to cute our baby dragon. Baby dragons are like the cutest thing I've ever seen in my whole life. Up to that point, I wanted one, like, I want a baby dragon. They're so cute. And we don't see baby dragons again maybe throughout the next season, yes, but again, the next time we see baby dragons is in the House of the Dragon, just before we need a sends our kids off, and then we saw baby dragons again. These are literally hours old. Yeah, baby dragons, these are new hatched baby dragons. They're so cute. Yeah, So slight differences from from the book is in the book Danny's lost dollar hair from the Power, which makes complete sense. But I can see why Amelia Clark didn't want to go down that route. She could have gone with a bald cap. Yes, she could have, and they could have done that. And maybe it was just a directorial choice from Alan Taylor or from Dan and Dave to not go down that route. But I'm fine with it. When did she come when the was her hair down? I think so? Yeah. I wonder if it was, No, it's back in a braid, is it? I wondered if it was maybe a modesty choice. No, no, no, it was. It was back and her hair tied back in a braid. And she's not hiding anything they except the dragon that's strategically placed in her lady garden. That's the only thing that's hiding. Now, my brain's often attention enough. Did it burn off her lady garden and not her head hair? Very good question because she's still got eyebrows. Did it only do like you know, the wax of blarias, like the pit hair, the lady garden and the legs? Yeah, that's that's great. Maybe a dragon in my life. It seems like such a quick way to do it. And if it's not painful, then oh I know. But the smell is singed here, well that is that as long as does it follow you around. But this whole saying, the screaming of Mary Masdour, even although she's. Like, you won't hear me scream, Oh you did, bitch, Oh you did did scream by the way, so good, it's it's not your screams I want, it's only your life. Yeah, so good, great dialogue, brilliantly acted. And at this point, what is she fourteen thirteen? Fourteen fourteen? Yeah, she's fourteen. She's so strong and she's just it's just built throughout this season. And also the gormless has stopped. Oh and the baby voice, yeah, yeah, we're done with the baby by this point. Were long done with the baby voice by this point. But yeah, she acted it absolutely brilliantly. She definitely depicted an arc of this character throughout the whole season, going from this place of being this little, little innocent girl to this leader. If you haven't fallen in love with Danny by now, there's something wrong. You're probably in the category of I'm not really in a Game of Thrones. Yeah. Yeah, And it's great though, because everyone had fallen in love with Ned and then the chop his head off. Yes, but you fall in love with Danny and there is the element of you know, she's not going to die in the fire, but Ned has just died in the episode before. Yeah, so first time watching is what's going to happen? Yeah, You're on the edge of your seat, and then there's baby Dragons. She's alive, and you're like, I knew this was going to happen, but I still didn't know that was going to happen exactly. George is messed with my mind so much, Yes, exactly, And this is it. You from the second she got those eggs, you spent the whole season hoping that these eggs were going to freaking hatch, that this was going to be a dragon show. Yeah, and they finally give it to us in this closing scenes in the closing chapter, and yeah, it just I'm thinking of this not as someone who'd read the book, because I hadn't when I first watched this, And oh my god, it was just the best show on TV ever. At this point, exactly, give me all the books. I'm going to read them all. Oh what you mean Season two is ready already Okay, I'll watch that first, And that's really how it went down. So any other thoughts on Danny's closing scenes slash chapter. Well, we'll talk more about the chapter in the next part. I think I've said all I have to say for our lovely dragon section. Oh, it's nice to have one, because the whole season there was none. There was no dragon, So it's great that those closing moments give us that. So before we wrap it up, now we've sat and we've discussed each episode piece by piece and everything. How do you feel overall about the whole season versus the book? The whole season versus the book was so close to the book, however, they have filled in all the bits that were internal dialogues really really well. They've added great humor in there, characters that weren't POV. We have built a relationship with the casting choice has been absolutely fantastic, the special effects, the work they've done with the animals, it's all been really really great. Yeah, I can't argue with any of that. I don't even think I could build on it. I think it's that's spot on. That's exactly how I feel. I think they've done a great job. It was a fantastic opening season to an adaptation, and as somebody who has later become a fan of the books to go back and watch that and where it stands up, it really does stand up. So that will bring us to fun facts. So the first fun fact I have here is Aria's needle was custom made to match her style. Mayzie Williams, who portrayed Aria Stark, received a replica of her character sword needle author George R. R. Martin to practice sword play. Oh that's lovely. Yeah. Sean Bean's head was used. Later, a prosthetic of Ned Stark's severed head was reused in the later scenes, one of the heads next to it resemble George W. Bush, leading to HBO having to apologize for the oversight. That's the funnest fun fact. So fun. Did someone get to take it home? No? If only I love it, it might be like beyond ballbag and someone took it home with Sean Bean. So the next one is the Stark Children's dire Wolves were portrayed by Northern Inuit dogs in season one. So the next one is the Dolfraki is a fully developed language. Linguist David J. Peterson was hired to create the Dothraki language from scratch. It has over three thousand words and rules of grammar. Awesome. Yeah, I believe he writes languages for quite a lot of shows during this whole time period, one of which that I know off the top of my head was The one hundred Cool very cool. So the next fun fact I have is that the iconic opening sequence was created by Elastic and designed to make to look designed to look like a mechanical map. Every moving part was physically plausible, even down to the gears turning in the cities. That's really cool, very very cool, and I do remember this as one of the best opening scenes ever ever. Well to old title sequences rather and from Game of Thrones, I always watch your own Netflix skip what everything? You can skip the title sequence from Game of Thrones. I can't be the only person that has a vested interest in the title sequence now, definitely, so my husband always, even from episode one, skips them and I go, no, no, I have to see, I have to see. You can skip it after episode one, but I have to see and Game of Thrones did that. Yeah, definitely, I maybe watch I'll maybe watch it the first episode of every season to see what's changed. House to the Dragon however, had me watching everying because it changed every other week, so clever. Yeah, yeah, definitely, and Game of Thrones did that too, because what you learn the as the season progresses is at the beginning, you're going to learn where we're going to be visiting this episode. Yeah, so it always moves. It might be the twins that they throw in there is a wee extra one, or it might be you knows Denaries makes her journey across Sauce. We see various different points for Denaries going to You've got your regular appearances kings land in Winterfell, et cetera. But others might change the episodes. So it always made. Me pay attention and to keep you engaged with every single part of the show. Yeah, you also got this thing where the cast list of who was in the episode, because sometimes people weren't in an episode. You know, this episode is going to be focusing more on John and Denis and a bit of Tyrian, but we might not see what's going on in King's Landing and they're not in the title, so I always used to watch the. Name psychology behind it is very interesting. Clever. Yeah, it's very clever. They weren't just putting a generic opening sequence out there. Usually you'd be getting your bag of crisps open, you would beat with my juice. I'll just knit for a quick wei or just sucked in from the setting. So by the time it really starts, so they said, you got that air the fuzzy screen, your. Brain has already gone into a mode of sucking in what's happening. Definitely, as far as I'm concerned, the title sequence is part of the episode. Yeah, definitely, And I've never felt that with any other show before or since, said House of the Dragon. Yeah. Oh, actually, I'm going to give props to Walking Dead here. Walking Dead did that quite well as well. There's always a little foreshadow and in the episode, maybe most of it was the same, but the last wee bit that's cool was always like a wee hint to what might be going on here, especially in Fear of the Walking Dead, because those episodes were very character based, so you'd maybe get a silhouette of the person who we were going to be focused on. In this episode. But I mean those were the top two shows at the time as they were airing. They were in direct competition. One year it was Game of Thrones was hitting the best. The next year it was Walking Dead that was hitting the best, and they were both very clever. Anyway, moving on, I think this is the final one. Yes, it is. The series's golden crown was real molten gold, kind of the same where Visseri's Targetium receives his golden crown by using practical effects. The molten gold was simulated using a mixture of silicon and a gold colored resin. That's really cool, very cool. It looked so real it did. It was very effective. Well done. Again to the special effects slash Props department. I'm not sure exactly. I feel that there's a collaboration on there for that one. So very cool, very cool, And that brings us to the end of our fun facts. It doesn't. It brings us almost to the end of our wrap up of season one. It does. We felt that no one's going to say it better than a Mormon. Absolutely, so let's let so let's let the old bear lead us out. Do you think you're Brother's war? It's more important than ours. No, I'm dead men and worse come hunting for in the night. Do you think it matters who sits on the iron throng? No good, because I want you and you're a wolf with us. When we ride out beyond the Wall. Tomorrow, beyond the Wall, I'll sit meekly by and wait for the snows. I mean to find out what's happening. The Knight's Watch will ride in force against the Wildings, the White Walkers, and whatever else is out there, and we will find Benji Stark, alive or dead. I will command them myself, So I'll only ask you once thought, snow, are you a brother of the Knight's Watch or a bastard boy who wants to play at war? If you want to get in touch, head over to the Unreal Error dot com. You'll find links to our social media and Patreon. Give us a like, follow, or subscribe. You can also leave as a voice message we might even feature it on the show, or just email us at talk at the unrelour dot com. And if you love what we're doing, you can support the show at Patreon dot com. Slash the unrel Hour for ad free episodes, early access, and exclusive content or buy us a coffee at buy Me a Coffee dot com. Slash the unrel hour. Every bit helps keep the show running. Thanks for listening. 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